Read your Bible, Ed.

Ed and Nick,I read your posts, but saw nothing to refute anything I've posted. If you ever post something that does, I'll respond to it, okay?

Nick,Can you refute that THE PERSON Jesus said HE had glory with his God before the world began?Nope.So instead of even TRYING to scripturally refute my claim, you will opt instead to post more drivel.

Quote (kerwin @ April 01 2012,19:39)Nick,We know Jesus is not a lesser god………….You WOULD know that, were you to actually put the words of scripture over your own words, Kerwin.The FACT is that Jesus is a god. Can you argue this fact? Only if you want to argue with scriptures (which you quite often do).And the FACT is that Jesus is not a…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 01 2012,19:35)Jude is speaking of giving glory, majesty, dominion and authority to God through Jesus in the past, present, and future.  Your stumbling block is you do not see how Jude can give anything through Jesus before Jesus was created.  I have no such problem as I understand how Jesus can have glory with God before he w…[Read more]

Well Ed,Unless YOU missed the connection, from now on, when Nick posts nonsense arrogance and condescnesion to me, I will copy his post and throw it back at him.If, on the other hand, he chooses to discuss the scriptural point we're in the middle of using his God-given intelligence, wisdom, logic, and the scriptures themselves, I will respond in…[Read more]

Ed,Let me know if you ever post something that actually speaks to the subject of whether or not Jesus was named “Jesus” before he was made in human likeness.I don't have the time to post, “And what part of that says that he didn't already have the name “Jesus” before he was made into human likeness?” over and over again.

Quote (Lightenup @ April 01 2012,18:35)Mike,I looked at your scriptures, they say nothing about power.Okay Kathi.God is the head of Christ, but in your mind that means they're equals.The Father is greater than Christ and all, but in your mind “greater than” means “equal to”.Whatever.

Think it out, Nick. The earthly body is sown perishable, and raised imperishable.Are those “born again” Christians of today living in an imperishable body right now? How about those who died to sin in Paul's day? Were they already existing in their imperishable bodies of glory while still existing as human beings on earth?If not, then who are…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 01 2012,18:33)God is made human in anyone who is fully mature in Christ.God is not human, Kerwin. Nor is He made human. The goal is that with the help of the Spirit from God, we will become more like HIM. It was never His goal to become more like US.

Nick,It is difficult to dialogue if you speak the language of the world.

Quote (kerwin @ April 01 2012,18:07)You state that you believe Jesus when he states “I came down from heaven” but you obviously do not or you would know that Jesus was not speaking of his flesh but was instead speaking of the Word that dwells in him and is written on his heart. Kerwin, did Jesus say, the Word that dwells in me came down from…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ April 01 2012,17:14)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 02 2012,09:35)Nick, you need to be like John and know the meaning of the WORD.Hi Mike,You're starting to sound like Jammin.God blessEd J     Ed, that statement is actually from a post Nick made to me earlier.  Here's what I said to him two pages ago………….Quote (mikeboll64 @ Ap…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 01 2012,17:08)Hi MB,Yes the words you quote of John are about the anointed man Jesus Christ.THANK YOU NICK! So then you agree that the words John wrote about the Word being with God in the beginning are about Jesus Christ?Fantastic! You are finally aligning yourself with what the scriptures actually teach! I'm so…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ April 01 2012,17:23)Hi Mike,Since God's “HolySpirit” is father to both me and Nick (Eph.4:6),it's no wonder you would hear the same message from us both.Hmmmmm…………..Does Nick agree with you that the Holy Spirit is his Father?The point I was making is that you both post nonsense that isn't usually even related to the point the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 01 2012,16:50)Hi MB, You really are in a rut.When you are reborn from above you will see beyond the human view.Nick,You really are in a rut.When you are reborn from above you will see beyond the human view.

Quote (Ed J @ April 01 2012,17:23)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 02 2012,07:34)Ed,Can you show a scripture that makes it clear Jesus was NOT his name in heaven before he was named that on earth?Hi Mike,                        Why Jesus was named YÄ-shü-ăJesus’ authentic Name YÄ-shü-ă has a direct connection to GOD’s name in that YÄ is the first par…[Read more]

So Nick,You seriously think Paul was saying we will bear the IMPERISHABLE body like those of heaven – and he was talking about men who still were dwelling within their PERISHABLE bodies? Oh brother!

I agree with you, Pierre.Too many people here want their own doctrine to be the “right” one, DESPITE what the scriptures actually teach.

No Nick,How about instead we all just ignore the plainly written scriptures, and adjust them as needed to fit into our own doctrines.You said, “The scriptures are carefully laid out”, did you not?