Absolutely Ed. Although Paul doesn't say it, I believe it means that Jesus was existing in the form of God AND HIS OTHER SPIRIT SONS.

Quote (kerwin @ April 01 2012,20:30)Jesus is King of everything in heaven and on earth. His kingdom is superior to David's.Why Kerwin?Why would God take the great, great, great, etc grandson of David, and place him ABOVE the one He had already appointed as the firstborn of the kings of the earth?What was so special about Jesus?

Bump for Nick…………………………Think it out, Nick. The earthly body is sown perishable, and raised imperishable.Are those “born again” Christians of today living in an imperishable body right now? How about those who died to sin in Paul's day? Were they already existing in their imperishable bodies of glory while still existing as…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 02 2012,17:51)Certainly the servant Spirit of Christ was sent to speak what God taught him and told him to say.So the spirit of christ, which was God in the beginning, is now a “HIM”? When did God become a separate “HIM” from Himself?

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 02 2012,10:33)Nick………This is what is wrong with Preexistences , they put Jesus on a Pestle and look to Him, and do not realize that Without GOD'S Spirit (IN) him he could not have accomplished any of the thing he did.You're wrong, Gene.  We place Jesus exactly where the scriptures place Jesus.  We do not raise h…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 01 2012,21:14)Quote (Ed J @ April 02 2012,20:35)Hi Pierre,Do you believe as Mike does?    …that Jesus is(?) 'a god'?God blessEd J edjYes i do ,even Moses was a god That is scripturally correct, Pierre. And that is what people like you and I strive to be – scripturally correct……………..despite how the words a…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 01 2012,21:18)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 02 2012,20:36)Hi T, Do you believe jn7 16-18?NJn 7:16 Jesus answered, “My teaching is not my own. It comes from him who sent me.All that is needed is the first six words that I bolded. If, as Nick says, the spirit of Christ was God, then the spirit of christ would not be saying, <…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 01 2012,21:08)Hi MBYou say”If the PERSON Jesus said he had glory with God before the world began, then the PERSON Jesus had glory with God before the world began.”Moving towards the catholic three PERSONS in God idea?Not at all. Do you deny that Jesus was a person, Nick?

Quote (kerwin @ April 01 2012,21:05)All those words state is that the Anointed had glory with God. They do not say the Messiah was there.Isn't the Messiah the “Anointed”?   Quote (kerwin @ April 01 2012,21:05)You are reading into them that the Messiah was there as it is not written.If the Anointed was there, then the Messiah was there, for they…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 01 2012,20:52)Mike,I argue that Jesus is not an angel; one of those which you choose to call gods.Then you argue with scripture, not me………….on both counts.Angels are spirit messengers of God, of which Jesus is definitely one. (Rev 1:1)And angels are called gods in Biblical times because in those days, they did not…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ April 01 2012,20:07)Hi Mike,I have, from cover to cover, and it says no such thing?Are you reading your Bible with TODAY'S understanding of “god” – with the understanding that “god” refers SOLELY to the one Omniscient Creator of All Things?Or are you reading your Bible with the understanding of the way the term was used when the…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ April 02 2012,00:20)Mike,Did you reflect on Jesus words regardng John the baptist,which is a clear indication that John is Michael the Archangel??Peace and Love in JesusCharlesHi Charles,I have never made any connection between Michael and John while reading scripture.What connection have you found?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 02 2012,12:53)Jn12.49For I did not speak on my own initiative, but the Father Himself Who sent me has given me a commandment as to what to say and what to speak”The servant SpiritSo the spirit of christ is a son of God, Nick? You say that this spirit was actually God in the beginning. When and how did what was God…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ April 02 2012,09:38)luke 2.21 is true.but your interpretation is wrongWhat about Phil 2:5-7? Paul says it was JESUS who was in the form of God before being made in human likeness.What say you?

Quote (Ed J @ April 01 2012,20:55)Hi Mike,What does “in the form of God” mean to YOU?Hi Ed,It means to me that Jesus was existing as a spirit being like his God.

Here's another jammin:Philippians 25 Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, 7 but made himself nothing, taking the form of a servant, being made in human likeness.jammin:1. WHOSE attitude should ours be like?2. WHO was…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ April 01 2012,19:23)mike cant you read the verse? LOLthat name was given when the son of GOD became fleshCan YOU read, jammin?What does this verse say?Luke 2:21On the eighth day, when it was time to circumcise him, he was named Jesus, the name the angel had given him before he had been conceived.Did the angel give the name “Jesus”…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ April 01 2012,20:01)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 02 2012,12:54)Ed and Nick,I read your posts, but saw nothing to refute anything I've posted.  If you ever post something that does, I'll respond to it, okay?Hi Mike,Meaning what?    …you will then adjust your views?God blessEd JPost something that refutes my understanding and find out.

Quote (toby @ April 01 2012,19:34)Ok, can I emphasise that I did not write the word 'Drank'.I wrote 'Drunk' and 'Drunk' is what I meant – not 'Drank'.Well, since the English word “drunk” means “inebriated”, then no, water can't be “drunk”.  It can, however, be drank.

Quote (toby @ April 01 2012,19:37)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)Would you like to see more scriptures?  If so,then look up “angel” in a Bible search engine and find them yourself.  This kind of crap is a complete waste of my time, Toby.Mikeboll64, is this all you got – one verse?See?  I've already told you how to find other descriptions of angels in the Bi…[Read more]