Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 04 2012,21:27)Hi MB, You say”God can change Jesus from a spirit being which can not die into a flesh being which can, but the body surrounding him is more precious than him, and therefore can't be allowed to die like the beloved Son that was in that body”What is this stuff from? Not the bibleNick,First read the post to…[Read more]

Okay Nick.You go ahead and add your own words “spirit of” into the scriptures as you see fit.Unlike you, I'll make my understanding fit around them, instead of the other way around.

Quote (Lightenup @ April 04 2012,19:24)The Father and the Son both have the power to hold us in Their hand.Christ can do nothing on his own, Kathi.  Any power he has comes from his God – the same as any power Pilate had, or any power any of us have.Kathi, God is greater than His servant, Jesus.  If you want to think God is greater in all ways e…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ April 04 2012,19:37)Hebrews 5:77 In the days of His flesh, He offered up both prayers and supplications with loud crying and tears to the One able to save Him from death, and He was heard because of His piety.Interesting scripture, t8.Kerwin, if this scripture lists these fleshly activities as past tense occurances, wouldn't that imply…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 04 2012,18:51)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 05 2012,10:54)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 04 2012,17:11)Hi MB, The Word is of the Spirit of God.As servant to God in Christ JesusSo the Spirit OF God used to BE God, but then instead became a SERVANT of God?  And not only that, but also somehow became a SON to the God it used to BE?H…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 04 2012,18:49)Hi MB, What seeds God plants will grow if the soil is good.Well, the seed you've been trying to pass off isn't doing to well in the HN soil, Nick. Even your fellow non-preexisters can't get their heads around your nonsense doctrine.

Quote (kerwin @ April 03 2012,02:57)Toby;You wrote:He would not have made the Spiritual Body into a carnal body because then it means that the Spiritual Body Can be corrupted which Scriptures says it cannot!Good point!God can change Jesus from a spirit being which can not die into a flesh being which can, but the body surrounding him is more…[Read more]

Quote (toby @ April 03 2012,02:54)Please show one single Scripture verse that uses the term 'SPIRIT BEING'…………..Show me one that says “human being”.  Are we to assume that human beings don't exist because it isn't worded exactly like that in the scriptures?   Is it your claim that an angel is not a created BEING?

Quote (toby @ April 03 2012,02:48)So, in each and every way, Mikeboll, you are 'Checkmated'!Quote (mikeboll @ 64)Now, weren't YOU about to post your VERY FIRST scripture that tells us how angels DON'T have bodies?No, Mikeboll64, I wasn't!! (if someone said they saw a Pig flying, it is up to them to prove that they did – not for the other person to…[Read more]

Quote (toby @ April 03 2012,00:06)Why exactly DID you change the word 'Drunk' to say 'Drank' when I did not write that?Already asked and answered.  I though you made a grammatical error – nothing more.Quote (toby @ April 03 2012,00:06)Then think again: Why did you change the word 'Spiritual' to say 'Spirit' in the term 'Spiritual Body'…As I've…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 04 2012,18:17)Quote (Ed J @ April 05 2012,02:26)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 04 2012,13:36)Quote (Ed J @ April 02 2012,22:34)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 03 2012,10:55)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 02 2012,17:51)Certainly the servant Spirit of Christ was sent to speak what God taught him and told him to say.So the spirit of…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ April 04 2012,02:24).        Mike said:Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 04 2012,13:32)So you can either become a true believer in scriptures, or you can stay where you're at        'False accusations' will get you no-where!Ed JSee Ed? This is why I usually walk away from you (like I do Toby).Out of that whole, time-consuming explana…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 04 2012,00:15)Hi T,Any proof there was a SON before creation?Hebrews 1:2but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son……….through whom he made the universe.Colossians 113 For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves…………. 16 For through him…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ April 04 2012,02:23)Hi Mike,Manoah certainly believed God had visited him,as did Moses at the bush; but Scripture pointsout that it was really an Angel of God instead.Are you saying that Manoah was confused, and thought it was God Himself that he saw? Read the passage again, Ed. It is clear that Manoah KNEW it was an ANGEL OF God,…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 03 2012,23:04)Is the Son who shares God's Spirit God?No. The Son of God is the Son of God, Nick. Not God.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 03 2012,23:04)Whatever is of God is God.Okay “Ed”. The heavens and the earth of “of God”. Are they God?Mankind is “of God”. Are men God?

And is it wise of you to preach a doctrine that clearly contradicts many scriptures – not to mention the human wisdom and logic God Himself gave us?It is true that wisdom is vindicated by her deeds, Nick.  It's time for you to go back to preaching what the scriptures actually teach so you and your wisdom can be vindicated once again.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 04 2012,17:39)Hi T, The Spirit on Moses was given to 70And did Moses, the 70, and the Spirit all merge together to form 71 sons of God?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 04 2012,17:11)Hi MB, The Word is of the Spirit of God.As servant to God in Christ JesusSo the Spirit OF God used to BE God, but then instead became a SERVANT of God?  And not only that, but also somehow became a SON to the God it used to BE?Hmmmm…………………..

Quote (toby @ April 04 2012,04:49)this is not a courthouse that you should make a dismissive statement such as 'No further questions' – in fact that is just plain rude!It was a joke.Quote (toby @ April 04 2012,04:49)You could have just said 'Thanks, that was the thread question and you gave what i believe is your honest reply'.You post the way you…[Read more]