Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 07 2012,10:51)For the kingdom of God “COMES” not with OBSERVATION but is Within you. When are you going to get that MIKE?No Gene. The Kingdom of God is in heaven. That's where Jesus is, sitting at the right hand of his God, whose dwelling place is heaven.

Quote (jammin @ April 07 2012,08:19)edj,there are 3 persons but one in nature, GOD.that's what the bible says.Where does the Bible say that?

jammin,If Jesus is “God”, and Mary is his mother, then doesn't it make Mary the “Mother of God”?

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 07 2012,08:55)To All………..It was that same BODY Jesus was raised up with that ascended into the clouds…………..Flesh cannot inherit the Kingdom of God, Gene.

Quote (kerwin @ April 07 2012,01:15)Mike,You just stated you were not content with what Scripture explicitly states ……………..No Mr. Smokescreen,I've stated that the fact Jesus made supplications while still in the flesh means he is not in the flesh any more. Nothing else.

Quote (toby @ April 07 2012,00:59)What does Scriptures (not your wild imaginings) say is the Glorious Body?Is not the Glorious Body that same 'Heavenly Body'?The glorious body is the body Jesus now has in heaven.  It is a spiritual body like those of heaven also have.  Who are those of heaven who are “also as” the man from heaven, Toby? (1 Cor 1…[Read more]

Kerwin,Are you trying to assert that “in the flesh” NEVER means “human nature”?  If so, then give it up.If not, then all you are doing is trying to create a diversion – something that you are the master at.We are talking about Heb 5:7 right now.  And if Jesus made supplications WHEN he was IN THE FLESH, then it is implied that he is NO LONGER in t…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ April 06 2012,15:59)Hi Jammin,Thank you for FINALLY answering question #1Ed,Now that jammin answered #1 correctly, don't you have a follow-up question or two? (It seems to me you have him stuck between a rock and a hard place with question #2. Good work.)

Quote (kerwin @ April 06 2012,20:05)Mike,You believe that because you fail to understand the language being used.Kerwin,I understand what the phrase “in the flesh” means. Jesus made supplications while he was still in the flesh. That means that he is NOT in the flesh anymore.In fact, here is what Barnes says about Heb 5:7………In the days of…[Read more]

Thanks Pierre. I sure hope they are the last words I have to speak to Toby on that subject.

Quote (kerwin @ April 06 2012,01:49)That is three witnesses. You either believe them or you do not. That is your choice; choose wisely.Unfortunately, not one of your “witnesses” call for adding the word “UNCHANGED” into Hebrews 5:7.In fact, if you leave the scripture as is (as we all should do), it will teach you that Jesus is no longer in the…[Read more]

Quote (toby @ April 06 2012,15:50)Paul is referring to those who will become like Jesus. 'Those who are Heavenly will be like Jesus' which is exactly what you yourself say.Where is the mystery?Well, according to your understanding, there are a few mysteries:1.  Phil 3:21 says Paul is anxious to have his lowly body transformed into a glorious body…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ April 05 2012,19:29)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 06 2012,12:24)Hi Ed, We know you favour one version.Truth abides in more than one.Luke 7:35 καὶ ἐδικαιώθη ἡ σοφία ἀπὸ τῶν τέκνων αὐτῆς πάντων. (Google) And wisdom was justified by her children everything.(AKJV Bible) But wisdom is justified of all her children.From NETBible:Luke 7:35But…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ April 04 2012,23:21)Hi Mike,You walk away, because that is all you can do……………No Ed.  I could stay and explain these things to you YET AGAIN.I could point out ONCE AGAIN how scripture says God is our ONLY Savior when it is clear that He sent many other saviors. Or how Paul says our ONE Lord is Jesus, when we know there…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 04 2012,21:02)Hi KW, Would you add UNCHANGED to hold up your tattered dogma?He has that same urge that many of you have, Nick.  He adds the word “NEW” into Col 1:16, making it mean that the NEW creation was created through Jesus.He adds “NEW” to Hebrews 1:2, making it say that God created the NEW ages through Jesus.It…[Read more]

Quote (toby @ April 05 2012,19:36)So whereever it is written 'Inherit' we can change it to 'Enter' and where it says 'Kingdom of God' we can change it to say 'Heaven'?Interesting idea.That's not what I said at all, now is it Toby?If you disagree with me, start the poll thread about it. Let's see who believes what about that phrase. Who knows,…[Read more]

Quote (toby @ April 05 2012,19:34)So you are saying that Jesus was raised up from the dead in a 'Spirit Body'?But Mikeboll, Jesus showed that 'Spirit Body' to his disciples and said 'Touch me (my 'Spirit Body' as you would say). See that I am not a Spirit (Being)'.Not at all.  It is clear from Luke 24 that Jesus was raised from the dead in a…[Read more]

Quote (toby @ April 05 2012,19:30)Hi Mikeboll,You said to Kerwin: Quote (mikeboll @ 64)God can change Jesus from a spirit being which can not die into a flesh being which can, but the body surrounding him is more precious than him, and therefore can't be allowed to die like the beloved Son that was in that body?This is hilarious.So Mikeboll, you…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 04 2012,21:43)Hi MB,Yes Jesus no longer has the perishable natural body but a new imperishable oneYes Nick,And as is Jesus since 33 A.D., so also are those of heaven – meaning “angels”.

Quote (kerwin @ April 04 2012,21:41)You know what the experts at Strong's say. You know what Paul teaches. You know they are in agreement. So why don't you believe them.James Strong teaches that Paul taught about a Trinity Godhead. According to Strong himself, he and Paul are in agreement. So why don't you believe them, Kerwin?