Quote (toby @ April 09 2012,18:18)I am not saying the Egyptian or other pagan gods were real entity Gods but “human devised or created in wood or stone, so-called Gods.”How about Satan?  How about the angels who were called gods?  How about the Egyptian gods who were able to match the signs Moses did up to a point?  Does a “human devised god” ha…[Read more]

Quote (toby @ April 09 2012,18:32)But he is referred to as 'A Man'.He is never referred to as being a human being after he ascended. Read the OP of the thread.

Is he a HUMAN BEING in heaven? Or a SPIRIT? Scripture bears out that it must be one or the other.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 09 2012,17:36)Hi MB, Scripture shows a child in prophecy.Nick,This CHILD is the one to reign from David's throne forever.  It doesn't say anything about the spirit that merges with him when he's 30 years old being called a mighty god, or reigning from the throne of David.This is of man, not scripture.The CHILD was born…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 08 2012,19:07)Hi MB,Are you asking about the flesh vessel or the treasure within?Well, Is 9:6 refers to the CHILD that was to be born.  Was the “spirit of Christ” BORN as a CHILD at any time?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 08 2012,23:15)Hi MB,You say you know what it means but on what basis?Nick,Is God a Spirit…………OR…………a human being?Are angels spirits………….OR………..human beings?Are you a spirit……………OR……….a human being?If Jesus BECAME a spirit, as scripture says he did, then he is no longer a human being.

Kerwin,You are correct that 15:47 does use “anthropos”……… I misspoke.The text says the first man was from the earth, earthy; the second man was from heaven.You are also correct that it can't be used to support your theory that Jesus is still a human being in heaven………….. BUT………. it can be used to support that the second man…[Read more]

Gene,Is 9:6 says Jesus will be called a mighty god.  John 1:1, 1:14, 1:18, and 20:28 are all fulfillments of this prophecy.  But let me move on by having you compare these two scriptures:Job 1:6One day the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came with them.Psalm 82:1God stands in the assembly of gods; in the m…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 08 2012,20:11)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 09 2012,04:56)Do you see all the gods mentioned in Pierre's post, Gene?  Who are all those gods?Gene, just answer this one question:How could Jehovah foretell that Jesus was to be called mighty god if there ARE no other gods except for Jehovah?Mike…..They are “FALSE” GODS…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 08 2012,19:17)Hi MB, So if scripture says he was a man scripture is wrong?Okay Toby Jr.  I said BOTH, did I not?  How then can you HONESTLY make the inferrence you just did?Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 08 2012,19:17)What if it says he took on the seed of Abraham and was made like his brethren to be their High P…[Read more]

Nick,When Paul says, “the last Adam BECAME a life-giving spirit”, doesn't it seem as if Jesus WAS something, and then BECAME something ELSE?It means Jesus WAS a human being, but then BECAME a spirit – which is something OTHER THAN a human being.

And is the anointed Jesus a god, Nick?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 08 2012,18:27)5For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 6Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time. “Now try it this way:For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men: the man Christ Jesus who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due…[Read more]

Is 9:6

Both.

Yes Nick. Quite sure, and scripturally supported.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 08 2012,13:29)Hi MB,Since Jesus Christ told us scripture calls men gods and Paul told us there were gods on earth how would this help you plan to somehow show the man Jesus of Nazareth was a heavenly god in a previous life?rThat doesn't answer my question, Nick. Here it is again:What did Jehovah mean when He foretold…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 08 2012,13:44)Hi MB,You say”If he mediates BETWEEN men and God, then he is neither man nor God.” Note that 1tim 2.5 says the mediator is the MAN, Jesus Christ.Read my opening post, Nick.  Or just read 1 Tim 2:5 in context.  It teaches that the MAN who died for us is now the mediator between God and mankind.Jesus was i…[Read more]

That was a very good post, Toby.  Kudos to you.I personally wouldn't say that Jesus “holds the 'Full Power and Authority' that is Almighty Jehovah God”, but that Jesus now rules IN the power and strength of Jehovah, his God.  (Micah 5:4) We know that even now – even after Jehovah has given all things into Jesus' hands, God is still the HEAD OF C…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 08 2012,14:10)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 08 2012,21:57)Quote (kerwin @ April 07 2012,21:38)Mike,I did not trick you; you tricked yourself.  You have now admitted that flesh can mean sinful nature when it is not driven by the Spirit.Oh, so Hebrews 5:7 is saying that Jesus made many supplications while in his “sinful nature…[Read more]