Were any of the “eternal Jesus” people able to explain why Jesus is listed as someone OTHER THAN the One who created all things, in at least 4 different  passages of scripture?Were any of them able to deny that if Jesus is not the One who created EVERYthing, then he has no choice but to be one of the EVERYthing created by the One who created EVERYthing?

Quote (kerwin @ April 12 2012,18:46)Both sides are human and therefore called man. Both sides are needed to have a whole man.You've answered your own abstract nonsensicality, Kerwin. (That word is growing on me now. )If BOTH sides are NEEDED to have a man, then each side in and of itself is NOT a man. Ergo, you are understanding “inner man”…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 12 2012,18:38)Hi MB,Did Adam not sin?Did Adam enjoy any part of his life without sin? I haven't. Nor have you.That's ONE big difference. Nick, why are we even discussing this? Because you want to insist that Jesus was just like the rest of us despite the fact that God was directly his Father?

Why is that, Nick? Did Jesus get such a huge dose of “the word” that it up and changed from a guiding spirit into a human being?

Quote (kerwin @ April 12 2012,19:02)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 13 2012,06:20)Quote (kerwin @ April 12 2012,18:11)It does not follow that because Jesus is called by the name of the Word of God in Revelations 19:13 that he is the Word spoken of in John 1:1.It absolutely DOES follow if you'd take off the blinders, Kerwin.Who else had the glory of…[Read more]

Hi Ed,So then the Word did NOT become flesh in Isaiah? Because THAT is the question I asked Nick in the first place, right?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 12 2012,17:47)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 13 2012,10:32)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 12 2012,17:28)Hi MB, Are you unlike to Adam- apart from your life span?In MANY ways, Nick.Hi MB, What different coloured hair and shoe size discrepancy?For one, I have never existed without sin. Both the first Adam and the last Adam did.

Quote (kerwin @ April 12 2012,18:11)It does not follow that because Jesus is called by the name of the Word of God in Revelations 19:13 that he is the Word spoken of in John 1:1.It absolutely DOES follow if you'd take off the blinders, Kerwin.Who else had the glory of God's only begotten Son when he became flesh? Who else was with God in the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 12 2012,17:29)Hi MB, Yes your need for natural understanding to rule does rob you of spiritual truthAnd YOUR claim that scripture should be understood as a mish-mash of contradicting verses that make no logical sense to sane, God-given, human brains is pathetic.And your claim that one must have spirit to understand your…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 12 2012,17:28)Hi MB, Are you unlike to Adam- apart from your life span?In MANY ways, Nick.

Quote (kerwin @ April 12 2012,17:03)Are there more than an outer and inner man mentioned in Scripture?Kerwin,Let me do a “sanity check” on you real quick:1. Do you understand that a SINGLE, INDIVIDUAL HUMAN BEING is comprised of a flesh, blood and bone body, and a soul, which are powered by spirit on loan from God?2. Do you seriously think that…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 12 2012,16:51)Hi MB, God was also the Father of Adam and the jews So how does parentage by God make one different?And was Adam not different than all subsequent human beings, Nick?

Quote (Colter @ April 12 2012,17:08)But, these people will not, cannot concede because they have their pride invested in an alien doctrine. What seems so obvious to you is hidden from them, they are not consistent and frankly intellectually dishonest.You know, Colter, I rack my brain trying to understand how exactly these people can't see what is…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 12 2012,16:40)Hi MB, Does scripture tell us he was different to other men before the Jordan? If not why do you?Well Nick,Was God Almighty his Father before the Jordan? Or did he have a human father before the Jordan? Jesus was not a “normal” human being from the moment he emptied himself to be made in the likeness of…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 12 2012,16:40)Jesus, like Adam and any other human being, is composed of these two parts. Scripture states he is a man and therefore both parts are human.Scripture teaches no such thing as “two parts” to every human being.When you die, and your body decays, your spirit goes back to Him who gave it, and you soul is…[Read more]

If a “normal” human being has as its parents a human mother AND a human father, then Jesus was never a “normal” human being, Nick.

Quote (Ed J @ April 11 2012,21:20)2) Yep, this occurred “AFTER JORDAN” (Acts 10:38) and “AFTER THE TEMPTATION” (Luke 4:1-17)! (John 1:14)So the Word BECAME FLESH in Isaiah after the Jordan? I don't understand.

Quote (kerwin @ April 11 2012,20:48)Mike,Scripture states the inner man is human(anthrópos); as you can see by the words of Ephesians 3:16.So you have a human being living inside of you, Kerwin?You seem to WILLFULLY confuse many scriptures in an attempt to fulfill your own, man-made doctrines.Here are some translations that render the true…[Read more]

Kerwin,Spirit is not a human being.  And “human being” is what is generally meant by “man”.A human being/man is not a spirit, and a spirit is not a human being/man.I believe “the last Adam” refers to Jesus Christ.  And I believe 15:45 is telling us that, after dying and being raised, Jesus ascended into the Kingdom of God as a life-giving spirit b…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 11 2012,20:24)Hi MB You say”Jesus is one of those many gods who is back in heaven now.” Really?Let's think it out, Nick:1. IS Jesus back in heaven right now? YES.2. IS Jesus called a god? YES.