Quote (terraricca @ April 15 2012,09:16)NNo,I think Mike is trying to make clear of what you can not see,but i do not think it works ,some of the blind need more to make them see ,like 4×4 hit ,ho, just to get there attentionA 4×4 board?  Or a 4×4 truck?  

Surely Jesus must have been begotten before the ages that were created through him. (Heb 1:2)

Quote (kerwin @ April 14 2012,23:38)Quote (jammin @ April 15 2012,09:24)let the bible speak Revelation 19:13Good News Translation (GNT)13 The robe he wore was covered with blood. His name is         The Word of God.the Word is Christ and not the HS or the father. case closedJammin;I do not know where you get that from as it sound like it sta…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ April 14 2012,20:37)Hi Mike:Is the “Word of God” Jesus in the following scripture?Quote Hbr 11:3   Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.  Love in Christ,MartyI don't know for sure, Marty.The words could be referring to all t…[Read more]

Hi Marty,In what way does “the Word” pertain to Jesus without being Jesus?

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ April 14 2012,19:40)Mike,Father Yahweh clearly says:”I am Yahweh, and there is no other; apart from Me there is no Mighty One .And how do you explain the other elohim and theos mentioned in scripture, Frank?Do we pretend they don't exist?  Do we call them “false gods” and assume that Jehovah's title “The God of gods” means…[Read more]

Ed,You only pretend to believe that God could have been WITH God in the beginning because your doctrine insists upon this nonsense.Even the Trinitarians understand that John 1:1 speaks of TWO entities.  They just add in their OWN nonsense by claiming these TWO different entities are somehow the same ONE God.The only logical solution, and…[Read more]

And those of his brothers who will dwell with him in heaven will have new, glorious, spiritual bodies. They will no longer be human beings, as human beings consist of flesh and blood.

We use logic, Nick. If Jesus is for sure called a god – even by the Most High God; yet he is NOT the Most High God, then it leaves no choice but for him to be a lesser god.

Quote (kerwin @ April 14 2012,18:13) Quote (mikeboll @ 64)  Jesus became a spirit, and he told us that spirits do NOT have flesh.  He didn't distinguish any particular KIND of flesh that spirits don't have; instead he clearly said that they simply DON'T HAVE FLESH.  This is a story made up by Gnostics;Luke 24:39Look at my hands and my feet. It is…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 14 2012,16:42)Hi MB,The Word was not a lesser god. The Word was GodThe Word was a lesser god who was WITH THE God in the beginning. God Almighty cannot be WITH Himself, Nick.The Word is again a lesser god who resides at that right hand of the Greatest God.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 14 2012,16:27)Hi MB, Did your lesser god need anointing?Yep. But why? Oh, that's right – because he EMPTIED himself of the form of God he was existing in to be made as a human being for a while.

Actually, since scripture says the Word was a god, it does teach that Jesus was one of the many lesser gods in heaven before the world was created through him.There were also many other lesser gods in heaven who shouted for joy at the founding of the earth.

“Light” doesn't teach that God became His own Son, Nick. They place where you dwell is perhaps within the fake light casted off of that deceiver who is masquerading for you as an angel of light.

The one who believes the words, “I came down from heaven” is not the confused one, Frank.The confused one is the one who reads those words, and knowing that they don't fit into his own doctrine, sets out trying to twist and distort those words into nonsensical, and usually quite humorous alternate meanings.

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ April 14 2012,16:17)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 15 2012,09:02)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ April 14 2012,14:59)John 17:1 Yeshua spoke these things; and lifting up His eyes to heaven, He said, “Father, the hour has come; glorify Your Son, that the Son may glorify You,  Here we see Yeshua is praying to the Father. Now notice Yeshua is…[Read more]

Nope.  I don't know that the Father IS in me, but if He were, I would be able to understand that it meant the Father was guiding me through His Spirit that He put upon me.I would never understand it to mean that the Father left His dwelling in heaven and came to His footstool to physically live inside of my flesh body.  And I know that no human b…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ April 14 2012,14:59)John 17:1 Yeshua spoke these things; and lifting up His eyes to heaven, He said, “Father, the hour has come; glorify Your Son, that the Son may glorify You,  Here we see Yeshua is praying to the Father. Now notice Yeshua is asking to be glorified, showing he has not yet received this glory being spoken…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 14 2012,14:20)Hi MB, Again you are confused. 1 Tim “…the man Jesus Christ..”  Jesus never stopped being a man just because he was anointed as the Christ at the Jordan.Rather, once again it is YOU who is confused, Nick.1 Tim”……the man who DIED…” – past tense. Jesus was indeed a man when he died on the tree.1…[Read more]

I don't. Nor do I agree with you that there are two kinds of human flesh – one that can live in heaven and one that can't.Jesus became a spirit, and he told us that spirits do NOT have flesh. He didn't distinguish any particular KIND of flesh that spirits don't have; instead he clearly said that they simply DON'T HAVE FLESH.Paul tells us that…[Read more]