And I'll repeat once more: Ed, I cannot POSSIBLY “entrap” you in ANYTHING scriptural if you speak NOTHING BUT the scriptural truth.It would be impossible for me to do so.

Quote (francis @ April 21 2012,11:25)Asana……….appears to have the time and patience to write a huge volume of posts… many of them very long.Agreed. Some people enjoy that type of discussion. I myself enjoy “quick and to the point” discussions.I see no sense in using 1000 words to say what can be summed up in 20 words.Note: I'm NOT…[Read more]

Ed,Did you know that Jesus and the writers of the NT quoted the LXX 67% of the time – instead of the MT?Besides, your examples don't change the entire teaching of the scriptures, as you would like to do with your interpretation of John 1:14.Suffice to say that if Jesus quoted from the LXX, then it was apparently acceptable to him. I haven't heard…[Read more]

Martian, Your entire posts argues against someone who claims Jesus was never a human being. I have never claimed such a thing.What did your Jesus sacrifice, Martian?

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 24 2012,11:01)He is the word of God, and his flesh are the words you find in the scriptures.The words that I speak, they are spirit and it is the spirit that quickens.How do you come to the conclusion that Jesus' words are his FLESH when you quote the scripture that says they are SPIRIT?

Nick,Is not the one Daniel said looked like a son of man the Son of God? Jesus was already known to be the very Son of the Living God when HE (JESUS) said, “I came down from heaven”.And Ed, sometimes “a Delusional Nutcase” is simply “a Delusional Nutcase”, and it has nothing at all to do with being a certain number of steps ahead of anyone else.

As I recall, you were banned from the site at your own request.  I don't know how t8's system allowed you to log back on under another user name, but as long as you continue to behave in an appropriate manner, I have no problem at all with you being here.

So “the big picture”: clarity of “God's word” as a whole involves us CHANGING the actual words of scripture, Ed?  

Are you CRYING about not being able to tell us why YOUR words don't match the SCRIPTURAL words, Ed?

Quote (jammin @ April 21 2012,09:18)read the context mike LOLthe term Christ refers to the LORD himself (verse 9). Christ is LORD and GOD! your imagination that it refers to “moses” is not in the bible LOLyou need to study the context mike. it refers to the messiah. Well, there have existed MANY lords, and MANY christs of God. So tell me how the…[Read more]

Unfortunately for Ed, the verses he “jumps to” don't have anything to do with supporting his original, unscriptural claim.Ed, answer my question about why YOUR scenario uses different words and carries an entirely different meaning than that actual scriptural teaching.

That doesn't explain anything. Please explain how flesh cannot ENTER INTO the Kingdom of God, but the Kingdom of God can exist WITHIN a sinful, flesh human being.Do you realize that you base this “Kingdom within us” on one scripture that you are misreading? Most translations say “the Kingdom of God is AMONG you”, or “IN YOUR MIDST”.There is no…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 20 2012,23:48)But it was the Word, the Spirit, that became united to Jesus of Nazareth.Scriptures, please.  Because the ones I read say that the Word BECAME flesh.  They don't say the Word “came to be UNITED WITH flesh”.Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 20 2012,23:48) He told them to eat his flesh and they were outta h…[Read more]

But scripture says “JESUS” said those words. Scripture doesn't even HINT AT your doctrine, that the Spirit that was God and came to do not His own will, but God's will, was speaking those words through Jesus.One shouldn't add their own imaginations into the scriptures, Nick. If your Lord JESUS said he came down from heaven, then it's best just…[Read more]

Kerwin said:Quote Jesus was in heaven at that time because he was and is in God; who was and is in heaven.Nick said:Quote TOO HARD  does not washI invite you both to deal with the meat of the teaching, as I posted for Gene.  Jesus said that no one had ever gone into heaven except for him, who came from heaven.Deal with that part, and stop trying t…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 21 2012,02:25)Mike,Those do not support what you wrote as we are to be like minded with Jesus Christ.Yes they do, Kerwin. Those witnesses not only support what I wrote, but they are the witnesses that teach us what I wrote.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 20 2012,23:45)We are meant to discern it was the Word that became one with Jesus at the Jordan.Apparently not, Nick. If we were meant to discern such a doctrine, then there wouldn't be so many clear, scriptural obstacles to that doctrine.Your doctrine allows for God coming down from heaven, not to do His own will, but…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 20 2012,23:23)Mike……….But what if it is not a “MARGINAL NOTE” then what is your answer?Gene,I am convinced that someone would have asked for an explanation for Jesus saying he was in heaven at the time. If not Nicodemus, then the disciples who witnessed the conversation.Why don't you focus on the fact that Jesus…[Read more]

Who received honor and glory FROM GOD?Also, scripture doesn't say the Word became flesh and dwelled among us with HIS OWN glory, does it?  So why does YOUR scenario contradict what the scriptures actually say?

Francis,I didn't mention you leaving our debate at all, nor did I even allude to that. I was pointing out that just because your opponent doesn't address each of the mind-numbing amount of things you write in a single post is not to say he therefore agrees with the points he didn't have the time or patience to address. That's all I was…[Read more]