Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 22 2012,20:38)Were the apostles born again from above?I believe some of them have been by now. But no, they were not born from above while they still dwelled on the earth as flesh beings.

Good words, Pierre.

Jesus Christ, who left his cushy life as an eternal spirit being in heaven to be made in the likeness of sinful flesh because the children were also of sinful flesh.He emptied himself of life eternal and great power and glory to be reborn as a lesser species and suffer at the hands of the puny men who were created through him.Your Master, on the…[Read more]

Nick,IF and when you are ever born again from above, you will no longer consist of flesh, but be spirit. No will human eyes be able to see you anymore, for you will be like the wind in this respect. (John 3:3-8)Receiving the gift of the Holy Spirit is not being born again, Nick. Bottom line: If you still consist of flesh, you have not yet been…[Read more]

Oh, you mean your Lord who won the “God Lottery”, Nick?Your Lord who didn't sacrifice a single thing, but instead was BLESSED beyond measure by being chosen to suffer one bad day in exchange for eternity at God's right hand?I hold him in a much higher esteem than you do. I recognize the sacrifice he made for us. Your Jesus didn't sacrifice a…[Read more]

You haven't been born again from above either, Nick. If you had been, you would no longer be flesh.Ones who will someday be born again from above will be spirit and water, and not consist of any flesh.

Nick,Jesus was “the christ” who was to come in the NT days. Jesus is not the only christ God ever anointed.Am I speaking scriptural truth or not?

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ April 22 2012,20:09)Mike,Then you need to show Scriptural proof that manner and Yahshua LITERALLY came down from heaven.Frank, there are SO MANY scriptures that support a literal coming down from heaven, and if you want, I will go through and list a bunch of them. But first, let's just deal with John 6:62 – What if you see…[Read more]

More of the same, Frank?  You can post the same thing from 100 sources if you want to, but if they have no scriptural proof that the manna didn't literally come down from heaven as it is said, then they can't honestly use that as support that Jesus didn't literally come down from heaven as he said.

Thank you for the support, Nick. I agree with your last two posts.

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ April 22 2012,19:38)1. The bread “from heaven” (vs. 31) did not mean that it was actually manufactured in heaven and descended through the atmosphere, but rather that it was produced on the earth by God's Holy Spirit power. “From heaven”, therefore, emphasizes the divine origin of the bread. 2. Similarly, Christ came down…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 22 2012,19:18)Mike,Quote Nor can you honestly and logically use this occurrence as proof that he didn't. Here is logical for you.Premise A:  No being can come to existence more than one time.Your first premise is faulty, Kerwin.  People who have died no longer “exist”, yet they will come back into existence once again in t…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ April 22 2012,15:36)NO ONE IS CALLED THE ANOINTED ONE WHICH WAS A PARTICULAR TITLE ONLY FOR JESUSSorry Charlie,But you are mistaken. Many have been called God's “mashiyach”, or “christos”. Surely Jesus was the one mashiyach that the Jews were awaiting, and was commonly referred to as “the Christ” – meaning, “THE one who was soon…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ April 22 2012,14:58)A parallel passage is John 6:38: Quote For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me.This statement confused the Jews who were listening to Jesus: Quote John 6:42 They said, “Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How does he n…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 22 2012,03:07)And the testimony is this, that God has given us eternal life , and this life is in His Son.John 1:4 In was life, and that life was the light of men.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 22 2012,14:18)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ April 22 2012,14:06)In Jesus’ high priestly prayer uttered prior to his capture and arrest, he prayed, “Now, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was…. My glory which You have given Me; for You loved Me before the found…[Read more]

Frank,Were you going to respond to the first post on this page………..or just continue to “own me”?

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ April 22 2012,14:06)In Jesus’ high priestly prayer uttered prior to his capture and arrest, he prayed, “Now, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was…. My glory which You have given Me; for You loved Me before the foundation of the world” (John 17.5, 24).This seems t…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ April 22 2012,13:51)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 23 2012,06:36)Also, remember that the Jesus you guys have created of your own imaginations didn't sacrifice one single thing for us.  Instead, your Jesus hit the jackpot of all jackpots.  Your Jesus won the “God Lottery”.  As if God picked a normal human being out of millions of…[Read more]

Oops. I misread “Voy” for “Roy” at a quick glance.