Timer:  It’s now been 8 days and Proclaimer refuses to directly and honestly answer my very first point since warning him that I was about to bring him to his knees over this Biblical Earth discussion in which he’s diverted and absconded for months.  How are we supposed to take Proclaimer (and Gene) seriously if all they do is make u…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  It’s amazing the lengths that the lizard people go to in order to convince us the world is a globe.

It took me 1 minute (using only the Windows Paint 3D program that came with my computer) to place the volcanic eruption on this NASA simulation of an asteroid hitting the earth.  So I guess in your mind this proves that this is a rea…[Read more]

Now add in the number of those who would have died from the flu (which “took a year off”), and things become clearer.

Adam:  I am taking normal precautions of Paracetamol 650, Multivitamins and started taking Ivermectin 12mg.

You’ll be fine. 👍

Daniel 12:2… Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt.

Proclaimer:  Scientists believe that there are large reserves of water inside the earth.

Your own source tells you to not confuse that with vast, underground seas, since this alleged water is trapped inside of rocks.  But that is a diversion.  We’re talking about the very FORMATION of the earth.  The Bible says it was formed from water, and “Bi…[Read more]

Mike:  Nobody in the history of the world has thought that the Biblical description of a flat earth meant a 2D circle – until you.

Proclaimer:  Thank you. We are making progress.

You’re welcome.  I’m glad I was able to help you see that the term “flat earth” doesn’t mean that the earth is a 2-dimensional circle.  For future reference, if you’r…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  However the earth came to be, it wasn’t a random act.

I don’t understand that bolded part.  The Bible tells us that the earth was formed from water, right?  And the biased interpretations of flawed men (which you erroneously refer to as “science”) tell us that the earth formed from a hot swirling cloud of rock and gas, righ…[Read more]

Well, it’s been over a week since I asked Proclaimer about the very first words in the Bible – and still no answer (despite him posting many times on the same thread).  How long will he ignore my question?  Tick tock…

Gene:  Why are you spending so much time on it ?,  is it because you are obsessed with trying to prove MIKE wrong?  Isn’t it time to move on?  Your dragging this whole site down with this nonsense brother.

Hi Gene, this site is about placing the truth of the Bible OVER and ABOVE all else, right?  You believe in a worldview in which the earth…[Read more]

Proclaimer: I am fascinated by people who are deceived. I like to see why that is. It helps me learn. And yes, not even obvious facts can convince a man who will defend his false doctrine to the death. Further, this site is about exposing lies that are connected to God, Heaven, The Bible etc. It is about debunking false doctrines.

So let’s im…

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Genesis 1:1-2…  In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.  Now the earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters.

Proclaimer, these are the very first words in the Bible.  Do these words align with your heliocentric mode…[Read more]

Proclaimer (aka CLOUDS ARE THE WINDOWS OF HEAVEN):  I started your post Mike and it is not good…

Yeah… I didn’t think my very accurate portrayal of your continual fails would be well received by you.  In fact, as I was ending the lengthy account of those fails with a very simple question, I thought to myself, “What if it is too painful for C…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  Mike, this is not a debate of two great minds…  It is simply a long rebuke toward someone who has destroyed his own credibility…

Agreed.

Let’s see if you are willing to honestly and directly answer the very simple question at the bottom of my previous post so we can get an idea of which of us is doing the rebuking, and which of u…[Read more]

Mike:  Why won’t you just come out and say that the writers of the Bible were ignorant goat herders who were not basing their idiotic flat domed earth ideas on “real science”?

Proclaimer:  Um, the whole world was pretty ignorant back then as far as science goes.

And there it is… FINALLY!

For those who don’t know, I started a “Flat Earth”…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  Besides all that. When it rains, it does come down in portals if you want to call it that.

And is that what you want to call it?  Will you seriously now try to claim that CLOUDS are the “windows of heaven” that God opened to let “the waters above” flood the earth, and then closed after He had allowed a sufficient amount of water i…[Read more]

Mike:  I’m asking you which of the following two descriptions of the earth better align with a firmament that has windows that can be opened to let the waters above in, and then closed to stop the waters above from entering?

Adam:  Good question. Proclaimer wants to align his Bible with present day science which is not possible.

Proclaimer: 

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Mike: Keep in mind the understanding of every Biblical scholar who, while themselves accepting the heliocentric model, will tell you in no uncertain terms that the Bible is indeed a flat earth book.

Proclaimer:  …they want the Bible to reflect false stone age views about the cosmos so the bible can be debunked. Trouble is, the Bible a flat e…

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Proclaimer:  You said something similar about Africa I think. Despite that, I am not arguing against drugs that might help.

Yes… along with posting raw data from Utter Pradesh, I have also posted data (and even MSM articles) concerning Japan conquering Covid with Ivermectin, and concerning the fact that Covid barely affected Africa at all.  T…[Read more]

Mike:  A little hard for the above “foundations of the earth” to be “pillars of the community” when mankind hadn’t even been created yet, don’t you think?

Proclaimer: Bwahahaha!

So then the adult answer would be, “Yes Mike… when the scriptures talk about God laying the foundations of the earth and creating the heaven, before a single human…[Read more]