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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    So the Word is one spirit of God, and the Holy Spirit of God was sent in the name of that first spirit of God?

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    Quote (kerwin @ June 01 2012,21:01)Mike;I believe the Word that has gone out of God's mouth and been made flesh by being united with the human Jesus; is literally God's spoken Word.And did this Word actually BECOME the flesh being Jesus of Nazareth? Or did it come to dwell IN the flesh being Jesus Nazareth?

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    Quote (Ed J @ June 01 2012,22:36)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 02 2012,13:57)Quote (Ed J @ June 01 2012,20:11)JEHOVAH is The Savior; Jesus is called our savior, sitting at God's right handSo Jesus isn't really our savior, Ed?  Hmmm…………  The apostles seemed to think he was.  ???How about the ones Nehemiah called “saviors”?  Was Nehemiah lyi…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ June 01 2012,20:11)JEHOVAH is The Savior; Jesus is called our savior, sitting at God's right handSo Jesus isn't really our savior, Ed? Hmmm………… The apostles seemed to think he was. ???How about the ones Nehemiah called “saviors”? Was Nehemiah lying?

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    Quote (kerwin @ June 01 2012,20:24)Mike;It is the Word that Jehovah declare has “gone out of my mouth” so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow.Kerwin,My question was: What or who was “the Word”?Telling me “the Word” was “the Word” is not helping. Was it a spirit of God? Was it God Himself? Was it a literal word that God spoke?

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic For Jammin in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 5 months ago

    And how about the 100's of Greek scholars who translated those 17 versions I listed in my last post? Didn't any of them “know Greek”? :)

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 01 2012,18:02)So why can MB not yet hear the voice of the Spirit of God in Jesus Christ?John 14:26But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.Was it the Spirit of God speaking through Jesus in this verse, Nick?

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    Quote (Ed J @ June 01 2012,19:11)Hi Mike,JEHOVAH is the savior behind those acting as his saving arm.But Jehovah is not the very saviors that He sent, is He?  So how can He say that He is the ONLY savior, when there were obviously others?

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    Quote (kerwin @ June 01 2012,18:48)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 02 2012,06:33)Quote (kerwin @ June 01 2012,05:24)Mike;I am convinced that Jesus, who was made of women, first was called by the name of the Word when the Word was made flesh by being united with it.And who or what was “the Word” before it “united with” the human being Jesus?Mike;Isaiah…[Read more]

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    Quote (journey42 @ June 01 2012,17:21)It doesn't sound right does it? The holy spirit has an owner, and this owner is identified ..GodGood post, journey. :)

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 01 2012,07:46)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 01 2012,09:13)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 29 2012,19:46)It was the man who ask him to swear to God he would not torture him Because Jesus had said to the “MAN”, for the evil spirit to come out of HIM.Hi Gene,Was it the man who asked for permission to go into the pigs?Mike….Yes it…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ June 01 2012,05:24)Mike;I am convinced that Jesus, who was made of women, first was called by the name of the Word when the Word was made flesh by being united with it.And who or what was “the Word” before it “united with” the human being Jesus?

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    Quote (Ed J @ May 31 2012,20:42)Hi Mike,                        GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHTEd, your post didn't answer these questions:Ed, how can Jehovah say He is the ONLY Savior, yet still SEND other saviors for His people?  Were Nehemiah, Paul, and Peter all “working to discredit” God's word? (Because all of them mention saviors who aren't…[Read more]

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    Why would you say that, Nick? Please show me where I've displayed such a misunderstanding.

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 5 months ago

    No Nick,Men, as a general rule, DON'T pre-exist as gods or angels.  But then, men, as a general rule, aren't sired by God Almighty and a human women.  Men, as a general rule, don't ask to be returned to the glory they had alongside their God before the world began.  Men, as a general rule, don't say, “I came down from heaven.”  Men, as a gen…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ May 31 2012,19:29)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 01 2012,10:59)The only destination I offer is what the scriptures truly teach – no matter what's popular in today's society.Today, Kerwin has joined the ranks of Pierre and me by adding his own voice to the scriptural truth that Jesus is a god, but not The God.  That is the scriptural fact…[Read more]

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    Hi Doc, and welcome.You can ask your questions pretty much wherever you'd like to.  You can ask them right here in this thread if you want, but expect the atheists to disrupt the scriptural discussion with lame comments such as “What god?”  :)If you don't want to deal with all that nonsense and distraction, then repost your thread in one of the b…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ May 31 2012,18:51)Hi Mike,Neither of those verses make Jesus 'a god'.Matter of fact, Acts 2:22 indicates he is not.Neither one of those verses say anything about whether or not Jesus is a god, Ed.  Those verses were my and Nick's way of clarifying to each other that Jesus could do nothing on his own.

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ May 31 2012,18:43)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 01 2012,11:03)Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 30 2012,11:42)Hi MB, Are you saying a lesser god worked outside of God's power?No being has ever worked outside of God's power, Nick.  I'll see your Acts 10:38, and raise you an Acts 2:22.  :)Mike,If that were true, then we would have no need to t…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 30 2012,11:42)Hi MB, Are you saying a lesser god worked outside of God's power?No being has ever worked outside of God's power, Nick. I'll see your Acts 10:38, and raise you an Acts 2:22. :)

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