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    Quote (Ed J @ June 03 2012,07:54)Hi Mike,Jesus, by proxy, is our savior.So Jesus IS our savior then? Why did Jehovah say there were none besides Him?

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 03 2012,08:12)Mike……….Spirits produce “THEIR” own cognate thoughts they represent what their aspect of  life is and certainly they will produce their own particular kind or type of life in a Person which will drive that persons will after all they are influencing life forces.Hi Gene,It is evident to me that you…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ June 02 2012,23:02)Hi Mike,Are you saying that Scripture, as written in John 1:1, does not make sense to you?Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 02 2012,20:02)You would correct scripture so it makes sense to you?Ed and Nick,Is there only ONE possible translation of John 1:1c?  MUST the Greek words be translated as “the Word was THE God?From…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic For Jammin in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (jammin @ June 03 2012,07:34)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 03 2012,01:15)Quote (jammin @ June 01 2012,20:57)they know that the verse means he has the nature of GODThey know it means “nature”, but translated it as “form” anyway?  :)they know that morphe also means nature.Why then did they all translate it as “form” instead of “nature”?  Surely t…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic For Jammin in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 4 months ago

    Nice translation, jammin.No one has ever seen God, but thousands saw “God the Son”?  ???

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    Quote (Ed J @ June 02 2012,22:45)Hi Mike, The Savior = God The FatherI have explained to you this truth many times now,you can pretend that you didn't understand if you want.Acts 13:23“From this man’s descendants God has brought to Israel the Savior Jesus, as he promised.So God brought “God the Father” to Israel as He promised?

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    I don't know to what you refer, but even the Trinitarians Keith and Jack speak the scriptural truth some of the time, right?Right now I'm trying to show you how senseless it is to believe that the Word was with the same God it was.It seems that you're whole “concept that came to you one night” stems from your blatant misunderstanding of John…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wakeup @ June 02 2012,14:46)Regarding flesh and bone:Flesh and blood CAN NOT inherrit the kingdom of God.If jesus is flesh and bone,then how can he inherrit the kingdom?I know what they say; flesh and bone and spirit blood. but then again this is not in scripture,this is twisting scripture,which we must never do.Amen.

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 02 2012,15:10)Hi MB, Why would you mock scripture?I have mocked scripture? How so?Are YOU “mocking scripture” when you tell a Trinitarian how nonsensical their doctrine is?

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 02 2012,15:13)Hi MB, You will always be confused if you rely on logic alone. God's ways are not your ways.Mindless fluff, Nick.These are the typical words of the desperate ones, who know full well their doctrines aren't logical.  Btw, do you claim to have a better understanding of God than I do, Nick?  Are God's ways N…[Read more]

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    I agree, Asana.  “For us there is but one God, THE FATHER“; but not for those who insist upon Jesus being the very God he is the Son of.

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 02 2012,14:07)The Word was with God and the Word was God.The dog was with the car, and the dog was the car.The man was with the woman, and the man was the woman.The word was with the god, and the word was the god.Nick, the third one only works if the first two also work. Do they?

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 02 2012,14:07)Hi MB, The Spirit is one.So the ONE spirit said they should be glad he is leaving, because that ONE spirit can't send that ONE spirit until that ONE spirit goes?  (John 16:7)

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    Hmmmm……….”The bicycle OF Nick IS Nick.””The girlfriend OF John IS John.””The spirit OF Mike IS Mike.”Nick, the last one only works if the first two also work. Do they?Btw, God wasn't literally inside of Jesus at any time. God remained in heaven the whole time Jesus existed on earth.

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    Quote (kerwin @ June 02 2012,11:12)Mike;The Word came into being flesh………..“came into being flesh”? I don't know what that means, Kerwin.It seems to me that the Word either BECAME a flesh being, or it came to be IN an already flesh being. Your understanding requires the latter, while scripture teaches the former.

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 02 2012,08:18)All spirits try to effect their ways on our minds they all want us to give our lives over to them and live to their wills or desires once they are (IN) us.So you agree that these spirits have wills of their own. Good, that is what I was trying to get you to see. It seems to me that you once denied this fact.

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    Hi journey,Yeah, for some reason, Ed believes the Holy Spirit OF God is God Himself. Be prepared for him to mention Acts 5:3-4 next. (Of course he'll pretend that Acts 5:9 doesn't exist.)

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic For Jammin in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (jammin @ June 01 2012,20:57)they know that the verse means he has the nature of GODThey know it means “nature”, but translated it as “form” anyway? :)

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    Quote (Lightenup @ June 01 2012,21:10)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 31 2012,18:25)Kathi, do you agree that there exists only ONE God Almighty?Mike,I agree that there is one God Almighty.Good, we are in agreement on this part.Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 31 2012,18:25)Do you agree that that ONE has a Son named Jesus?Quote (Lightenup @ June 01 2012,21:10)the…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ June 01 2012,20:04)Mike,God the Father AND God the Son are together the Lord of all heaven and earth.Mike,The begotten God purchased the church with His own blood. You know this. Mike,I agree that there is one God Almighty. The Father with the Son and their Holy Spirit. The one God Almighty is never without the Son.Revelation…[Read more]

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