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    Quote (kerwin @ June 07 2012,13:39)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 06 2012,08:17)2 Kings 6:17And Elisha prayed, “O LORD, open his eyes so he may see.” Then the LORD opened the servant’s eyes, and he looked and saw the hills full of horses and chariots of fire all around Elisha.To all;Did the horses and chariots of fire materialize or were they they there…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wakeup @ June 06 2012,20:45)Mike B.Some of us,alive at the coming wil not experience death,but will be change in a twinkle.wakeup.Agreed.

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    Quote (kerwin @ June 07 2012,13:32)Mike;Are you now meaning to claim that John the Baptist will not inherit the kingdom? On earth, John the Baptist had “born of a woman” status, meaning that he was flesh; because flesh gives birth to flesh, right?  Jesus was saying that among those of flesh, none is greater than John – but the least of those in…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2012,20:10)I've tried to explain to you, that is because of the limiting natureof the languages used to express the deeper theology of God.In many ways English does not have these same limitations.From Webster's Dictionary:god…………. any of various beings conceived of as supernatural, immortal, and having special powers…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic For Jammin in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (jammin @ June 07 2012,06:52)do you have the form of MAN? yes or no?if yes, are not you a MAN?YES, jammin.I am A man.Now, are we ready to investigate whether Paul thought Jesus was God Almighty or not?

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    Quote (kerwin @ June 07 2012,02:14)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 07 2012,05:19)To WHAT does the title “the Word of God” refer in Rev 19:13?  Does that phrase refer to literal words that God has spoken?  Or to God's main spokesman?Mike;A prophet is the spokesman of God; Jesus is the Emperor of God.  The prophets serve him.  Jesus position is that of God…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 06 2012,19:28)Hi MB, You do not yet have the spiritual truth and show no interest in learning about it.That is the last line of defense brought out by someone who can't defend their doctrine using the actual scriptures.Nick, I've heard that a million times from Trinitarians.  Should I have accepted their words, and just…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2012,19:29)Hi Mike,Have not Kieth, Jammin, and others been calling Jesus this?I see this as a fulfillment of the Prophecy in Isaiah 9:6.So you think Isaiah was prophesying about Jesus FALSELY being called “mighty god” in the future by Trinitarians?

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    Ed,I was having a discussion with NICK about the many gods mentioned in the scriptures.  YOU are the one who jumped into OUR discussion on page 344, claiming that I was “discrediting” Isaiah 44:8.So, as I have done a dozen times before, I set out to ONCE AGAIN explain to you that Isaiah 44:8 doesn't mean that Jehovah is LITERALLY the ONLY elohim…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ June 06 2012,18:10)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 06 2012,13:12)Can't answer the question, Frank?  That's par for the course with you.  I'm used to it by now.Mike,What was the question?   :DAnd this is how Frank does it.What is with these guys? Are they not here to discuss and discover the truth of scripture?

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 06 2012,18:03)Hi MB,Good question.Perhaps ask a greek scholarThis is how Nick answers questions that might put a damper on his doctrine.

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic For Jammin in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 4 months ago

    jammin, I'm sure you know that the Hebrew word “adam” means “man”, right?So to answer your question, I am AN adam, but I am not THE Adam.Get it?  Anyway, I've grown tired of your “nature” thing – as it seems to be all you have, and so you've been repeating it for ages.  :)But you said Paul knew Jesus was God.  Do you want to do an investigation in…[Read more]

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    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ June 06 2012,18:20)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 06 2012,12:16)2 Kings 3:27Then he took his firstborn son, who was to succeed him as king, and offered him as a sacrifice on the city wall. The wrath against Israel was great; they withdrew and returned to their own land.Frank, this describes the King of Moab sacrificing his son to…[Read more]

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    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ June 06 2012,18:33)Yeah Mike, that is why our Heavenly Father and Creator's name is substituted with the mere inferior title “the LORD” and James is designated with the greater title of a “KING” that includes his name on the cover of the AKJV!  :DGood one, Frank.  :)But in all fairness, the KJV society has recently published w…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2012,18:08)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 07 2012,10:16)But let's look at the scripture YOU quoted again:“Ye are even my witnesses. Is there an elohim beside me? yea, there is no elohim; I know not any.” (Isa 44:8)Hmmmm………….  It seems that Jehovah Himself clearly said that there were NO ELOHIM besides Him.  Yet YOU said, <…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2012,18:03)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 07 2012,10:01)Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2012,07:20)2) The LORD means “The Owner”, and that is JEHOVAH.Jesus is JEHOVAH's son, and that makes Jesus owner.So then Jesus isn't LITERALLY the ONLY lord in existence after all, huh?  So what then does Paul mean by the words, “..and one Lord, Jesus…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Nick,Yes to what?  Were you acknowleging the simple FACT that when translating the Greek of John 1:1c to English, it is grammatically possible to translate as “the god (God)”…………OR…………….. as “a god”?

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ June 06 2012,00:27)That is fine Mike. If a man cannot answer the question, then that usually demonstrates to all that he has a problem with his view and is too proud to admit it.Yeah t8,Frank does this all the time – as you well know. He refers to not answering my questions as “owning me” for some reason. :D

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    Kerwin, I believe you overlooked this post from page 353:I should have phrased that differently. What I want to know is:To WHAT does the title “the Word of God” refer in Rev 19:13? Does that phrase refer to literal words that God has spoken? Or to God's main spokesman?

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    Hi Ed,First, you said this:Quote (Ed J @ May 31 2012,19:29)Why do you work to discredit Isa 44:8?“Ye are even my witnesses. Is there 'a God' beside me? yea, there is 'no God'; I know not any.” (Isa 44:8)God blessEd JThen, you said this:Quote (Ed J @ June 05 2012,02:13)Hi Mike,There are other ĔL-ō-Hêêms………..First of all, we don't have to a…[Read more]

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