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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ June 09 2012,21:18)Hi Mike,God's word is not 'a god', but the essence of God himself.In the beginning was the essence of God, and the essence of God was with God, and the essence of God was God.Is that how it goes, Ed?

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ June 09 2012,21:17)Hi Mike,John 6:38 is about Christ, John 1:1 is about the HolySpirit(Jesus' father).God blessEd JSo Jesus came down from heaven as well as God's Holy Spirit?

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Hi Ed,Even though you didn't come right out and answer my question, I gather that you understand and accept that there are three ways to translate John 1:1c.And that is all I was after from you and Nick in the first place. Because once you acknowledge that it CAN be faithfully translated as “a god”, then it comes down to which translation makes…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Tell me why the translation that places our one God with Himself is the “unaltered” one, Ed.Since we already know Jesus is a god, and we already know that Jesus is called “the Word”, and we already know that Jesus is the only begotten of God, then how much more sense it makes, and how much more it aligns with scripture if Jesus was a god who was…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ June 09 2012,14:51)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 10 2012,07:34)Ed,Do you acknowledge the undeniable FACT that John 1:1c can either be translated as “God” or as “a god”?  Because THAT is what I'm trying to teach you.  Have I done that yet?Hi Mike,Translating as you suggest would be adding to God's word, something God warns against.No Ed,  …[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Without my spirit, there is no “Mike”. My flesh cannot be “with” Mike. My soul cannot be “with” Mike. My spirit cannot be “with” Mike.

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ June 09 2012,13:41)This answer suggests “Yes”Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 10 2012,05:35)Quote (Ed J @ June 09 2012,12:33)Hi Mike,When your body dies does your spirit die?God blessEd JNo Ed.  How so? ???

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Ed,Do you acknowledge the undeniable FACT that John 1:1c can either be translated as “God” or as “a god”? Because THAT is what I'm trying to teach you. Have I done that yet?

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ June 09 2012,13:24)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 10 2012,06:17)Quote (Ed J @ June 09 2012,12:48)But I do know that in English the indefinite article cannot be used in John 1:1 without corrupting thee text.Actually Ed, The TRINITARIAN translation that causes God Almighty to be WITH God Almighty is the corrupted text.  Duh……..how can…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ June 09 2012,12:58)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 10 2012,05:37)What answer?  Jehovah says He is the ONLY elohim.  Yet YOU say there are others.How did you explain it?Hi Mike,אלהים ĔL-ō-Hêêm can mean Judges, Leaders and false gods.God blessEd JSorry Charlie,YOU said there are other elohim, but qoute Jehovah saying He was the ONLY one – as…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ June 09 2012,12:55)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 10 2012,05:35)Quote (Ed J @ June 09 2012,12:33)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 10 2012,04:40)Quote (Ed J @ June 09 2012,11:23)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2012,11:33)Quote (Ed J @ June 07 2012,21:40)John 1:1 is about the HolySpirit: who is God, was God, and will always be God.Hi Ed,That would mean…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ June 09 2012,12:48)Hi Mike,Since I'm unfamiliar with the Coptic languages article usages……….Doesn't matter, Ed. The fact is that the first language into which John was translated that uses an indefinite article translated 1:1c as “the Word was a god“.Ed, I once read a blog from a person from Greece. He said that while there…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ June 09 2012,12:48)But I do know that in English the indefinite article cannot be used in John 1:1 without corrupting thee text.Actually Ed, The TRINITARIAN translation that causes God Almighty to be WITH God Almighty is the corrupted text.  Duh……..how can God be WITH God?   ???Most sensible people know that God cannot be WITH G…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    What answer? Jehovah says He is the ONLY elohim. Yet YOU say there are others.How did you explain it?

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ June 09 2012,12:33)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 10 2012,04:40)Quote (Ed J @ June 09 2012,11:23)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2012,11:33)Quote (Ed J @ June 07 2012,21:40)John 1:1 is about the HolySpirit: who is God, was God, and will always be God.Hi Ed,That would mean God Almighty Himself became flesh, had the glory of His own Son, and…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    I don't know, Ed.  What I know is that the very first time people had the opportunity to translate 1:1c as “a god”, they did so.Ed, have I now successfully taught you that 1:1c can be translated as “God” or “a god”? Or did you already know this FACT of translation?

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    1 Corinthians 1427 If anyone speaks in a tongue, two—or at the most three—should speak, one at a time, and someone must interpret. 28 If there is no interpreter, the speaker should keep quiet in the church and speak to himself and God.Ed, you have some strange ideas; like you being an alter and the AKJV being foretold in scripture.But back to the…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ June 09 2012,11:23)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2012,11:33)Quote (Ed J @ June 07 2012,21:40)John 1:1 is about the HolySpirit: who is God, was God, and will always be God.Hi Ed,That would mean God Almighty Himself became flesh, had the glory of His own Son, and died at the hands of human beings.Hi Mike,That would mean God's spirit…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ June 09 2012,11:19)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2012,11:28)    Nick, do you understand that John 1:1c can be faithfully translated three different ways?  YES or NO?  No Mike,For something to be “faithfully translated” it cannot be translated to something different.Good point Ed.The first language into which the scriptures were tra…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ June 09 2012,11:09)Quote (t8 @ June 09 2012,10:58)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 07 2012,15:28)Hi MB, You do not yet have the spiritual truth and show no interest in learning about it.I disagree with your assessment here Nick.I trust that Mike would believe the truth if you could clearly show it from scripture. Only a fool would disagree…[Read more]

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