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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Nick,When you're able to acknowledge the undeniable FACT that John 1:1c can be faithfully translated as “God”, or “a god”, I'll be ready to move on with you.Until then, leave me alone. Your posts are mindless fluff.

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2012,13:38)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 11 2012,06:26)(1)Oh, but you also think God IS the Holy Spirit OF God, who IS the Word OF God, right? 1) Are we not in agreement here?Ed, how can you seem to know what I'm saying in #1, but then play dumb about the same thing later:Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2012,13:38)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ June 10 2012,13:11)Luke 24:39King James Version (KJV)39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.Hi Kerwin,Doesn't that scripture work against you?  It was Jesus who taught us in John 3 that flesh cannot enter the Kingdom of God.  Paul r…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2012,13:05)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 11 2012,05:43)Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2012,12:24)Hi Mike,1) Jesus: “I came out from God” (John 16:27)2) The Comforter: “I will send unto you from the Father” (John 15:26)God blessEd JTHE COMFORTER said those words, Ed?    ???  Or was it JESUS saying he would SEND the comforter?Hi Mi…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2012,13:06)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 11 2012,05:43)And do you suppose that God was “dead” in the beginning?  Or just having an “out of body experience”?Hi Mike,NeitherThen there was no reason to state that God's essence was with God in the beginning, was there?

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2012,13:04 ) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 11 2012,05:41)All things are not persons, but all persons are things.Hi Mike,Is God 'a thing' to you, you do call him 'a person' right?      …please answerEd, my answer is in the very post you quoted.Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2012,13:04 ) Quote (mikeboll @ 64)Did all of these things be…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2012,12:18)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 11 2012,02:32)ONLY when they die?Hi Mike,Some people report having out of body experiences while they are still alive.And do you suppose that God was “dead” in the beginning? Or just having an “out of body experience”?

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2012,12:24)Hi Mike,1) Jesus: “I came out from God” (John 16:27)2) The Comforter: “I will send unto you from the Father” (John 15:26)God blessEd JTHE COMFORTER said those words, Ed? ??? Or was it JESUS saying he would SEND the comforter?

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2012,12:17)Hi Mike,Jesus and the HolySpirit are not 'things'.God blessEd JAnd what then should we call them, Ed? EVERYTHING in existence is a “thing”, Ed. All things are not persons, but all persons are things.Don't divert away from the point, okay? Also, I already read your “comforter” post, and it doesn't answer my…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic For Jammin in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 4 months ago

    No, what is YOUR point by telling Pierre to “lose your carnal thinking”?This is simply tripe you've copied from Nick.3000 years ago, were all men “born equal” Ed? If you were born a slave to a Jew, were you “equal” to the Jew?

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic For Jammin in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 4 months ago

    Wasn't it a carnal man who wrote the words you quoted, Ed?

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2012,11:43)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 11 2012,04:04)Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2012,09:46) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 11 2012,02:35)So Jesus was with God in the beginning, and then became flesh and dwelled on earth with the glory of God's only begotten?Mike, He was God in the beginning; not an Angel.So Jesus WAS God, but then became…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2012,09:46) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 11 2012,02:35)So Jesus was with God in the beginning, and then became flesh and dwelled on earth with the glory of God's only begotten?Mike, He was God in the beginning; not an Angel.So Jesus WAS God, but then became God's only begotten Son?    Hmmm……………  Ed, if you truly be…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ June 09 2012,13:50)Nick;I am the one that believes he is flesh and bone and not solely composed of spirit.Galatians 516 But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh. 17 For the flesh sets its desire against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; for these are in opposition to one another……..

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic For Jammin in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (jammin @ June 05 2012,22:16)paul is referring to the nature as GOD and not as MANpaul knows that Christ is God by nature.Galatians 4:8Formerly, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those who by nature are not gods.jammin,The word “nature” in the above scripture is the Greek word “phusis”.  It seems that “phusis” actually DOES mean…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2012,08:55)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 11 2012,01:46)So Jesus existed in the form of God before being made into the likeness of a human being?YepSo he was with God in the beginning, and then became flesh and dwelled on earth with the glory of God's only begotten?

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    ONLY when they die?

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ June 09 2012,22:13)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 10 2012,14:50)In the beginning was the essence of God, and the essence of God was with God, and the essence of God was God.Is that how it goes, Ed?Hi Mike,You could say it that way.And when you went to the store the last time, did you take your essence with you?  Or did you leave your…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ June 09 2012,22:10)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 10 2012,14:48)So Jesus came down from heaven as well as God's Holy Spirit?Hi Mike,YepSo Jesus existed in the form of God before being made into the likeness of a human being?

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    Jodi said there is no scripture that says “spirit BEINGS”. And I told her there is no scripture that “human BEINGS” either. And she said, “Great point. I never thought it out like that.”And that's the last she's had to say on the subject. Gene, when Jesus appeared to the disciples, they thought they had seen a SPIRIT. Now surely they didn't…[Read more]

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