Quote (kerwin @ June 11 2012,18:25)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 12 2012,05:56)Kerwin,Flesh gives birth to flesh………………SO…………in order to enter into the Kingdom of God, one must be born AGAIN from above, of water and spirit……………..because FLESH cannot enter.That is what Jesus taught Nicodemus.   Paul confirmed this teaching…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 10 2012,21:11)I agree that the one who sits on the throne is the Lord God Almighty. Also, I agree that Him who sits on the throne is the Lord and God of the four living creatures and the 24 elders.The Son is part of a Father/Son unity with the one on the throne that is being addressed.Sorry Kathi, but according to the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 11 2012,18:29)Hi MB, I accept your apology.The apology comes if and when you show me the post where you said “I don't know” to my question before today.Until that time, I will remained baffled about how all the experts I quoted said “YES”, and my question said, “ACCORDING TO THE EXPERTS I QUOTED”, yet you came up with “I…[Read more]

Things said about “the Word”………….1.  He was with God in the beginning.  (John 1:1, Phil 2:6, Proverbs 8:22, Micah 5:2)2.  Through him all things were made.  (John 1:3, 1:10, Col 1:16, 1 Cor 8:6, Heb 1:2)3.  He was the true light that gives light to every man. (John 8:12, 9:5)4.  To those who believed in his name, he gave the right to becom…[Read more]

I see Princess is still stinging a little bit from her 10 Commandments fiasco.     I don't suppose it's much fun to come on so strong and arrogantly just to be exposed as ignorant, huh Princess?I see you read my post for Nick, Princess.  What is your answer?  The facts from the experts are right there in my post, yet your hero Nick still ans…[Read more]

Kerwin,Flesh gives birth to flesh………………SO…………in order to enter into the Kingdom of God, one must be born AGAIN from above, of water and spirit……………..because FLESH cannot enter.That is what Jesus taught Nicodemus. Paul confirmed this teaching in 1 Cor 15.

Good one Frank.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 10 2012,20:21)Hi MB, I have told you that i do not know.This is the first time I'm hearing any kind of a direct answer from you at all, Nick.  If you could produce the post where you have already answered with “I don't know”, I will humbly apologize for overlooking it.In the meantime, I will accept your current “I don't…[Read more]

I've started the thread, Nick. You need to answer the question or receive a tile.

I won't play your games anymore, Nick.  I'm putting you on the Hot Seat.

I'M not the expert. But the ones who ARE experts say “YES”. Do you concede this to be the truth of the matter? YES or NO?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 10 2012,19:32)Hi MB, Still trying to divide the one Spirit?Nick, can John 1:1c be translated either as “the Word was God”, or as “the Word was a god”? YES or NO?

Quote (kerwin @ June 10 2012,18:54)As to Jesus' words to the effect that flesh is made of flesh and spirit of spirit. His body was flesh at the time. Was it made from spirit? Was it later made spirit? Stating yes to either of those questions seems to conflict with Jesus' words.In what way would it conflict with Jesus' words? Are you saying…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2012,18:10)Hi Mike,The Glory was Jesus' father's passed down to Jesus then to us.God blessIsaiah 42:8“I am the LORD; that is my name! I will not give my glory to another or my praise to idols.Your understanding does not align with scripture, Ed.Nor does your post explain why the Holy Spirit, who you say IS God, would have t…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 10 2012,17:03)Hi MB, Scripture never says Jesus IS the Word.Really jammin jr? Scripture must come right out and say it for you? If scripture doesn't come right out and say it, then how do you come to know that Jesus is the Word in Rev 19:13?Nick, can John 1:1c be translated as “God”, or as “a god”?

Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2012,17:19)“The Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his(HolySpirit's)glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father” (John 1:14)Ed,You believe the Holy Spirit OF God is God Himself. How is it that God had the glory, not of “God”, but of the only begotten OF God?

Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2012,17:19)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 11 2012,10:00)Let's see you do that with MY understanding.  List any single scripture in the entire Bible that would refute my understanding of Jesus being the Word who became flesh and had the glory of God's only begotten.Hi Mike,”The Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2012,17:08)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 11 2012,10:00)Hi Ed,Even though you didn't come right out and answer my question, I gather that you understand and accept that there are three ways to translate John 1:1c.Hi Mike,Not so.     So it's an undeniable fact of translation, but you just don't want to accept it?      

Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2012,17:05)C) “The Word” was God (Past tense)Ah, so you are aligned with Nick, pretending that something that WAS God became something that WASN'T God anymore?Enough said, Ed.

Nick, The following is a post I made to Ed yesterday.  Read the first supersized, bolded part.  That is what I'm still waiting for from you:  Your acknowledgment of something you can't possibly deny, because it is a simple, undeniable FACT of Greek to English translation.Then, read the last supersized, bolded part.  This is my challenge to you…[Read more]