Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ June 13 2012,20:53)A verse that goes hand in hand with the phrase “came down from heaven” is Jn.6:62;”What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?” Yahshua'sorigin is not in question here. Those who reject the pre-existence doctrine should notreject Yahshua's heavenly origin or that his father was…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ June 13 2012,20:43) The Son never goes back to the Father. Jesus never says he will be returning to the Father as if he hadbeen with Him previously, but:“…was going to God” (John 13:3).“I am going my way to the Father” (John 14:12, 28;16:28).“I am going to the Father” (John 16:10, 17).“I am ascending to my Father” (John 2…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ June 13 2012,20:28)And the word became a human being and tabernacled among us……………What particular human being did the word become, Frank?

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ June 13 2012,20:28)…………and that declaration was with God as His project, and it was fully expressive of God Himself.Hmmmm………….Does “was fully expressive of God Himself” have the same meaning as saying this project WAS God Himself?

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ June 13 2012,20:05)Surely you know by now that I am not in agreement with Ed J! Then you probably shouldn't have told journey “This is not what we are saying that Mike is not correct about.”  Because that IS what Ed is trying to tell journey I'm not correct about.Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ June 13 2012,20:05)You have yet to show…[Read more]

Frank,This is silly.  Jesus IS the one called by the name “the Word of God”.  I believe that John 1:1 speaks of the one called by the name “the Word of God” being with God in the beginning.I believe John 1:14 speaks of the one called by the name “the Word of God” becoming flesh.I believe 1 John 1:1 speaks of the disciples seeing and touching the o…[Read more]

Frank,First of all, Ed doesn't believe Rev 19:13 speaks of Jesus.  He thinks it is the Holy Spirit who is called “the Word of God” in that verse.Secondly, it IS a word game you play.  If the chairman of the board was a guy named “John”, then we could say “John is the chairman”.  Now of course, John isn't literally half chair, half man, is he?  J…[Read more]

When did t8 suggest you had to answer with only certain, selected, limited answers, Ed?Ed, there is not a single question you could ask me that I couldn't honestly answer for you.  Why are you guys making such a big deal of this?  If you're worried about tiles, then just answer people's questions. You should be doing that anyway, right? After a…[Read more]

Frank,You already agree that the one called “the Word of God” in Rev 19 is Jesus. So you can play word games if you want to, but you will never be able to honestly say that Jesus is not “the Word of God”, because scripture says he is.

Ed,Of all the prophets God has spoken through, Jesus is the only one who is said to be called by the name “the Word of God”.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 13 2012,17:33)Hi MB, Why did you come out of trinity and fall into polytheism?I'll take this uninformed and untrue (on both counts) post as a sign that you weren't able to go through my last post and find where I had spoken unscripturally, like I challenged you to do.  

Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2012,17:27)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ June 14 2012,09:59)Quote (Ed J @ June 14 2012,09:00)Hi Frank For YHVH,Isa 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it. GOD'S WORD DIDN'T DIE and…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ June 13 2012,15:40)Mike,You keep telling me that I can not say what I have said when in fact, I have already said it!Actually Frank,My point was that you can't honestly say, “Jesus is not the Word of God”.  You can physically say (or type) it all you want – but it won't be true.

Quote (jammin @ June 12 2012,21:13)GOD is eternal by nature. the father is GODthe son is GODGod is eternal, yet Jesus died. Did God die, jammin?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 12 2012,20:15)Hi MB, That is a NEW teaching.Hmmm…………..I learned it directly from scripture, Nick. Perhaps you will quote my words, point by point, and tell us all how they are not according to scripture.

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ June 12 2012,19:59)Mike,Yes, I can honestly say that Yahshua is not the word of Yahweh.But you can't say Yahshua is not the Word of Yahweh.  Because he is, according to scripture.  Nor could you say Arnold Swartzenegger is not “the Governator”.  Even though that made up word has no real English meaning, it is one of his na…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 12 2012,19:36)Hi MB, Of course Jesus was not with God nor was he God.Not only was Jesus with God in the beginning, but he had much glory alongside his God before the worlds were created through him. But then he was sent DOWN from heaven, not to do his own will, but the will of He who sent him DOWN from heaven.You are…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ June 12 2012,19:37)Mike,Yahshua is not Father Yahweh's word…………….Yes Frank.  We have both agreed that Jesus is not literally a word of Jehovah.  But we have both agreed that Jesus bears the title “the Word of God”, right?So you can honestly say that Jesus is not literally a spoken word of Yahweh, but you can't honest…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ June 12 2012,19:22)I believe that Father Yahweh's word was made flesh THROUGH (BY WAY OF) His son………God's word spoke through many prophets, Frank.  Why was it only said to have been “made flesh” in the case of Jesus?Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ June 12 2012,19:22) ………he was the spokesman of his and our Father Yahweh's…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ June 12 2012,19:22)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 13 2012,12:06)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ June 12 2012,18:31)Mike,I actually agree with the following:1.  Yahshua was existing in the form of Yahweh.2.  Yahshua emptied himself (or “made himself of no account”).3.  Yahshua was made a human being.4.  After becoming a human being, Yah…[Read more]