Kathi, I will believe the scriptures. You are free to believe whoever you like.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 24 2012,13:19)The rest is from you, not scripture.Nope. Galatians 4:14, 1 Thess 4:16, Rev 1:1…………..

Am I still allowed to call it as it is? Or should I lie?

Boy if THAT isn't the pot calling the kettle black, then I don't know what is.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 24 2012,13:05)No need to add ANGEL by flawed logic.I don't “add” angel, Nick.  I read it in scripture.  If YOU don't want to consider Jesus as an angel (spirit messenger) of God, then that is YOUR choice.Leave me in peace with MY choice, okay?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 24 2012,13:01)Hi MB, The Son of man will return. Why should we take it on ourselves to call him a SPIRIT BEING?Well, is he a BEING who exists in SPIRIT form alongside his God in heaven? I believe so. If you believe differently, you are welcome to your belief. It's okay with me if you don't feel “logical” enough to…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 24 2012,12:31)Hi Mike,you said:Quote I don't disagree with your analogy (except for them both creating us – for we have a Creator, not Creators). Would you agree that MANY scholars, and early church fathers, including Eusebius, believe that Jesus was the creator of all things in heaven and on earth based on what the Bible…[Read more]

And what is it that YOU do here, Nick?

Who is it that sends the evil adversary spirit into us, Gene? God?

Quote (carmel @ June 24 2012,10:43)WRONG:  READ AGAIN IT IS CLEAR : but the Spirit itself maketh INTERCESSATION,So scripture specified the SPIRIT ITSELF maketh INTERCESSATION, not GOD.Hi Charles, Haven't your words just concluded that the Spirit OF God is not God Himself?If Jesus intercedes with God on our behalf, then he is obviously not the God…[Read more]

John 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the only begotten, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.The only one who ever made his dwelling among mankind, and had the glory of the only begotten from the Father, is Jesus.  Therefore, according to this scripture, it was Jesus who…[Read more]

I think we agree that Jesus was at one time a man, Nick. Do you think Jesus is still a human being in heaven right now?And if you want, you can omit the word “BEING” from my post. The fact remains that Jesus became a SPIRIT, and Revelation 1:1 makes it clear that, as a SPIRIT, he is delivering a message from God to others. That qualifies him as…[Read more]

Kathi, I don't disagree with your analogy (except for them both creating us – for we have a Creator, not Creators).  But shall we then give the passengers who stepped up to help the co-pilot equal glory also?  Jesus is highly glorified in heaven, because with his blood he purchased men for God.  But didn't Peter, Paul, and many other disciples ha…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 23 2012,22:37)Hi MB, Only God can reach you.Nick,If it was said that someone was hiding under a bed that was IN HEAVEN, then I would logically deduce that the space under the bed, in which that person was hiding, was also in heaven, since the bed itself was in heaven.Likewise, if I was told that someone was hiding under…[Read more]

John 17:3This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.I take in knowledge of God and the one whom He sent forth by asking for spiritual guidance while reading the Bible again and again and again (I'm in Hebrews on my 4th time through right now).  In this way, I…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ June 23 2012,17:56)The giants themselves are not said to be wicked but instead are called mighty men of renown.Hitler was a mighty man of renown. So was Napoleon Bonaparte – all 5'6″ of him.Just sayin'.

Hi Wakeup,Have I indicated something different?

Sorry Nick,If Jesus is a spirit being, which he now is, and he delivers any message from God to others, then he is an “angel”, an English word which refers to a “spirit messenger”.End of discussion.

Then believe what you want, but don't try to “correct” my LOGICAL understanding of John's words, okay?

Nick,You asked me if we could be one with Jesus, OR if he was a lesser god. I asked you why those two things would be mutually exclusive.Then you asked if being one with Jesus meant we would be lesser gods too.Then I asked you if being one with God meant we would be God. I added that you might be understanding “one with” wrong.Then you posted…[Read more]