Berean: Bravo Mike, I totally agree with you on these points in debate. And thank you for bringing even more light to these things that are revealed to us in Genesis 1 and 2 and Exodus 20 and 31. God bless.

You ain’t seen nothin’ yet, brother.  😎  I hope that you and Adam are enjoying watching Gene and Proclaimer stumble over their own ex…[Read more]

Gene: Mike…… it’s playing out fine…

It’s actually not playing out fine for you, Gene.  In fact, it’s playing out so poorly for you and Proclaimer that you can’t even directly answer a simple challenge.  Here it is again – so you can ignore it again…

Exodus 20:9-11…   Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a S…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  I’ll let this topic run free then. 

Thank you.

Proclaimer:  Wild conspiracy theories, myth, or truth?

Do you like the new title?

I think it is a good descriptor for debating anything wild and wacky to see if there is any truth to them. Sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction as they say.

I’m not sure I’d be calling a discu…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  And God is a mighty fortress. That doesn’t mean that he is a building.

Another prime example of a strawman argument.  Here’s how it works (in Proclaimer’s mind anyway)…

1.  I believe the days in Genesis are extended time periods.

2.  Do you have anything to support that belief?

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Proclaimer:   …a day to God is different to a day for us…

How so?  In which scripture did Yahweh tell us that when He says “day”, He’s really talking about something other than a normal day?

Gen 1:14…  Then God said, “Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to separate the day from the night, and they shall serve as signs and f…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  Except the bible doesn’t say 24 hours. Thus you need to be more like the Bereans who studied the scriptures to see if it were so.

How long does the Bible say the first six days were?

Do you have any scriptural reason to suspect that they were something other than literal 24-hour days?

(Let’s see if you’ll answer actual questions wi…[Read more]

Adam: 17 It is a sign forever between me and the people of Israel that in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.”
If you deny the above text you will also deny the original story of creation in the Bible. So what do you say?

Proclaimer:  Good. So now look at Genesis. What was acco…

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Proclaimer:  Much of the language of the Bible is obviously metaphorical and I think you missed the boat here Mike and Berean too. 

How about this instead:  Mike and Berean, you understand that a lot of the Bible is metaphorical, right?

See how that’s a simple question within a discussion – without including a personal slam against other pe…[Read more]

Proclaimer: I should also state that I think you have some gifts, but science is definitely not one of them.

😅🤣😂   It’s absolutely hilarious that you took the time to individually answer every single one of my RHETORICAL questions that afforded you the opportunity to level even more ad hominem attacks against me – but continually refuse to a…[Read more]

Mike:  Exodus 20:9-11… Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God…  For in six days the LORD   made   heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day

Proclaimer:  A number of ways to look at this.

No, there is only one way to look at it.  The four things…[Read more]

Proclaimer: Okay, so why is there morning and evening meaning a 24 hour day with day and night for the first 3 days if there is no sun? You said God. But God is light and there is no darkness in him. So did he disappear for 12 hours on the first few days?

This is one problem you have to contend with among many.

I did NOT say “God”.  I related w…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  Same with you Berean. Can you admit this possibility, or will your ego sway you toward the SDA meaning you are forced to deny it.

Proclaimer, do you really think this kind of juvenile crap is necessary?  Why can’t Berean simply be accepting what the scriptures say?  Why does his disagreement with you (the one who’s actually denying th…[Read more]

Berean: Hi to all,

Why not believe that in Genesis 1 and 2, God created everything by his power in 6 days of 24 hours and that he rested on the Seventh day.

I believe it… because I believe the Bible over Scientism on everything.

Carmel:  Genesis 1:2-3 and so on it was not created in a literal six days…

You’re adding to the scriptures things about a Lucifer rebellion and whatnot.  I’m not interested in these things unless you can show me in scripture that there was a Lucifer rebellion before God created the heaven and the earth.

As for your comment about the six days, p…[Read more]

Adam: Please take for example of Gen 1:1 which you people claim to be a proof for supporting the Scientific view of creation for billions of years. The same Biblical writers interpret the Genesis creation stories in which God of the Bible created heaven and earth within six literal days as our Mike repeatedly debate here as per Exodus 31:

17 It i…

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Adam:  This is purely due to primitive understanding of the universe by the writers of the books of the Bible like any other Near Eastern religious creation stories.

Proclaimer:  Well yes, primitive in the sense that it is from eons ago.

First of all, neither of you could possibly verify that this so-called “primitive understanding” is i…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  While you may not understand any of this, suffice to say , you are foolishly suggesting that thousands or millions of lizard people are tricking us to believe the earth is a globe that spins around the sun…

Hilarious Mike. Really funny. I mean if you want to be the butt of the joke, then that is your choice I suppose. But maybe…

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Proclaimer:  But you don’t have to bother if you consider that Genesis actually says that God created the heavens and the earth and that the earth was formless and void before the days even began. 

Gene:  By the way I do agree with your point about the earth and water already existed before God started this creation…

Okay, let’s do a comp…[Read more]

Mike:  And don’t forget that plants existed on earth BEFORE the sun (and all the stars) was even created!  It’s not an error in translation, Proclaimer.  It’s an error in your Scientism-based understanding of the world God created for us.

Proclaimer:  Yep, a big problem with your interpretation alright. For a start, try placing a plant in comple…

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Proclaimer: <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>Hi guys.</span>

<span style=”color: #ff0000;”>I’m thinking about splitting this topic up. I could branch out the Genesis debate into its own topic. Anyone against doing that and why?</span>

<span style=”color: #ff0000;”>The benefit is that topic will be easier to find and because it will be dedicated to…

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