Quote (kerwin @ July 05 2012,20:51)We know that the Utterance of God has been with God since the beginning and has always born the name of the Word.Kerwin,You go out of your way to make the “utterance” of God seem like a living being that can be with God.  But can you show me a scripture where anyone else's utterance was ever said to have been…[Read more]

Hi Gene,I live right by a lot of Indian casinos, but I steer clear of them.  I won't take a chance at gambling because I already know I've got an addictive personality.  With God's help, I've gotten rid of most of my addictions, and the last thing I need is another one.    But I agree that casinos can be big fun when taken in moderation by tho…[Read more]

An atheist was seated next to a little girl on a plane and he turned to her and said, “Do you want to talk?  Flights go quicker if you strike up a conversation with your fellow passenger.”  The little girl, who had just started to read her book, replied to the total stranger, “What would you like to talk about?””Oh, I don't know,” said the a…[Read more]

Frank admits that Jesus' name is called “the Word of God”, yet for some reason just cannot bring himself to even consider the possibility that the one called “the Word ” in John 1:14 could be this same person whose name is called “the Word of God”…………………. despite the fact that this particular Word in 1:14 was made flesh, dwelled…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ July 05 2012,18:12)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 05 2012,03:49)jammin, is God Almighty the most powerful being who has ever existed?  YES or NO?are you referring to the father or son? bec the bible says that they are both GOD by nature and not god boy. LOLI'm referring to the Father. Please answer the question.

I don't think men were PURPOSELY called angels by any English translator. If the ones in white at the tomb were men, then it is clear the translator THOUGHT they were angels, or he wouldn't have translated as such.

Quote (Lightenup @ July 05 2012,15:32)Mike,Are there any theos for us as our authority besides the Father and the only begotten theos, the Son?I don't know about now, Kathi, but I assume their will be.  The Apostles will sit on thrones with Jesus and rule over us with him, right?  And by this time, they will have been changed from flesh beings t…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ July 04 2012,22:09)Good to know that we can be open to different interpretations and judge them in a fair way.

That didn't answer my questions either, Gene. But I give up.peace,mike

Quote (kerwin @ July 05 2012,11:20)Mike;Quote then it makes perfect logical AND scriptural sense that the Word of God who was with the Father in the beginning, but was then made into a human being, and dwelled as a human being on earth with the glory of the only begotten of the Father, is one and the same person as the one who bears the title “the…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 05 2012,14:38)So you do agree that The Father is the Ultimate and Highest Authority that much you have already said. So all semantics aside what you call the one having the Highest Authority is what we call GOD ALMIGHTY.You can call as many people as you like “God” but you have agreed that “The Father” is the Supreme…[Read more]

How about in Acts 1:10? Men or angels?I think angels in the account of the tomb and in 1:10 – but that could be because that's the first thing that came to mind the first time I read those passages, and now it's stuck there.

Quote (kerwin @ July 04 2012,18:22)I prefer essay answers in attempt to remove ambiguity and correct context.  I personally think you prefer essay answers to CREATE ambiguity.  But since we agree that THE PERSON Jesus Christ is KNOWN to have as one of his titles “the Word of God”,and we agree that Jesus is KNOWN to have been the only begotten of t…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ July 04 2012,17:33)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 05 2012,00:35)Kerwin, is there at least one time in scripture when the phrase “the word of God” does NOT refer to that which comes out of the mouth of God, but to the PERSON Jesus Christ?  YES or NO?Mike;I know of no Scriptures where Jesus is explicitly called the Word of God even as he…[Read more]

Actually Kerwin,I have some better questions for you:When was Jesus existing as something other than a human being so that he had to be (your words) “made by Jehovah in the likeness of humanity”?And what was he existing as before he had to be “made by Jehovah in the likeness of humanity”?

Good, then we agree that “authority” is not what is meant by the word “morphe” in Phil 2, and therefore shouldn't waste time discussing things that neither of us even believe.You said, Jesus being in the very form of Jehovah; saw equality with him as something not to be grasped but emptied himself taking on the form of a servant; and was made by…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 04 2012,15:32)Mike,Is Jesus the only begotten theos?Is Jesus for us as our one Lord according to 1 Cor 8:6?Yes Kathi,For us there is one God, the Father, and one Lord whom that one God appointed, Jesus Christ.It is a hierarchy that Paul is speaking about in 1 Cor 8:6, with God being the head of Christ, and Christ being the…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 04 2012,15:05)Quote (Lightenup @ July 04 2012,12:12)Oh, Mike, you know we have one God, the Father and one Lord, Jesus Christ and that Jesus Christ and the Father are both theos. So, let me ask you again, how many theos are for us?1 Cor 8:6yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist…[Read more]

Marty,It's interesting that you can admit Jesus was God's only begotten Son in this thread while denying it in the other thread. But tell me, if the existing in the form of God was when Jesus was a human being, what does it mean that he was made into the likeness of a human being?

And what does that mean, Marty? How exactly was Jesus existing in the form of God while a human being? Does God have the form of a human being?