Quote (942767 @ July 08 2012,18:27)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 05 2012,05:23)Quote (942767 @ July 01 2012,16:23)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 02 2012,01:14)Quote (942767 @ June 30 2012,20:41)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 30 2012,10:14)Marty,Is it scriptural that John the Baptist called Jesus “the Lamb of God” – even though Jesus wasn't literally a lamb?  YES…[Read more]

Quote (AndrewAD @ July 08 2012,18:20)I've been reading alot on this site and find it very interesting.I've been seeing your name as a member, and have been wondering if you were going to post anything.Welcome.

Quote (Colter @ July 08 2012,14:40)Do people understand that the fallen ones were originally trusted servants of God who turned of that faith, embraced sin and attempted a takeover?What did they attempt to take over? God and his rule in heaven? Or did they just want to be left alone to rule earth as they saw fit?

Quote (kerwin @ July 08 2012,13:46)God's purpose for it is to teach us to be like minded with Christ who exists both in the form of God and the form of a servant.It doesn't teach that Jesus existed in the form of God AT THE SAME TIME he existed in the form of a servant.  In fact, it teaches quite the opposite.  It teaches that although Jesus WAS E…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ July 08 2012,13:37)Jesus posed this question:Luke 20:44King James Version (KJV)44 David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his son?The answer is also in Scripture.Romans 1:3King James Version (KJV)3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;That is actually part of…[Read more]

Okay Kathi,So let's adjust your statement:  Jesus is a member of the unity that He is a son of and a son in.If you include the “OF” part, which you must because it is scriptural, then you're STILL saying Jesus is his own son – or at the very least, part of his own father.Or would you prefer to eliminate the scriptural “OF” altogether so your…[Read more]

Oh, I've known WHAT you are trying to say for a long time.  I've known what Asana wrote about for a long time, too.  It's not a matter of me “not getting it”, Kathi.  It's a matter of me not giving even one ounce of credence to these nonsensical claims.Think it out, Kathi:God Almighty is called “the God of gods and Lord of lords” in the OT, ri…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ July 08 2012,13:57)Jammin,That Scripture states the Word has a glory like the only begotten of God.   That's right, jammin.  And only people with pre-conceived notions would imagine that someone or something else would have the glory of God's only begotten Son.To those of us who let the scriptures do the teaching, it seems clear en…[Read more]

LOL! All I've done is apply YOUR logic to the case of Artaxerxes and Nebuchadnezzar! So perhaps it is YOU who is wasting time, and YOU who needs a break.

Quote (Lightenup @ July 08 2012,12:32)Mike,Do you remember me changing the word to 'in' instead of 'of' because I thought that would help you understand better? You may have not seen that because you have not acknowledged it.I not only saw it, but responded to it (1st post on page 19).  My response was something to the effect of, “Does the Bible…[Read more]

He also seems to be ignoring a lot of Wakeup's points and questions.

No jammin,I DON'T believe it refers ONLY to the flesh body of Jesus.  Why would it?    In fact, if you read Gill and Barnes on it, you can see them trying hard to say it must refer to the flesh body, because we know Jesus himself is from eternity.See how that works?  They go into the scripture already “knowing” something that has never been tau…[Read more]

That's pretty much EXACTLY what 1:14 says, Ed. What do YOU think it says?

Quote (Lightenup @ July 08 2012,00:03)Jehovah is not just the God of gods. He is also Lord of lords.And Jesus is not just the Lord of lords, he is also the King of kings.  Ezra 7:12Artaxerxes, king of kings, To Ezra the priest, a teacher of the Law of the God of heaven: Greetings.Ezekiel 26:7“For this is what the Sovereign LORD says: From the no…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ July 08 2012,05:30)It is a good question to ask what a god looks like, and no one should accept the answer that it is invisible / shy / “outside time” or any other nonsense.And can you see an atom with the naked human eye, Stu?  Hmmm…………… since you can't, I guess they don't really exist.   Surely you don't believe that the o…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 08 2012,00:16)Mike,You indicate that I believe in one person that is His own Son……………………you act like I was saying that one came from himself?  You probably need a break or something.Kathi,These are YOUR words from our Biblical Discussion thread:“Jesus is a member of the unity that He is a son of.”To me it…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 08 2012,07:57)T8………..Interesting , you can produce not one scriptures that shows any activity of Jesus before his berth on this earth and in fact Jesus never said one word of any activity of his, prior to his earth existence and you say we are deluded? You preexistences as well as all Trinitarians make Jesus out…[Read more]

Really Gene? It was the Father saying “the Father in me does the works”? It was the Father saying, “the words I speak are not my own”? Explain this one:John 6:38For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me.Who came DOWN from heaven, Gene? And whose will did he come DOWN from heaven to do?

jammin,You're the one making the claim that Jesus is from eternity by using a falsified Bible as “proof”. How is it that you call ME the false teacher then? And Micah wrote his prophecy hundreds of years BEFORE Jesus had a flesh body, so how could he say his origins were from “ancient times”?

So the Father within you told you the Urantia Book was true?