Quote (942767 @ July 11 2012,14:18)Hi Mike:You added that the word WHO to the scripture.Love in Christ, MartyWell Marty,Since this Word became flesh and tabernacled (dwelled) among other human beings, and since those other human beings saw HIS glory, I understand this particular Word as a “who”.  But I'll rephrase it for you in the effort of…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 10 2012,23:35)……….this is what is meant by let us reason together, if someone was being reasonable they would read what you just wrote and say “I understand what you mean by that”Thanks Asana,I always keep that hope in my heart – that my words are not wasted.  I keep hope that eventually, someone WILL say, “I…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 11 2012,15:58)BD,1 Cor 8:6 says the Father is our one God and not our one Lord.It just so happens that Jehovah is both our God of gods and Lord of lords…not JUST God of gods.But Kathi,If you take the “one God, the Father” part as literally as you want to take “one Lord, Jesus Christ” part, then our one God is the Father,…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 10 2012,19:15)Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2012,11:56)fscriptures says MAIDEN  I thinkYes, I do not believe that she was actually a “virgin” when she gave birth to Yahshua.Luke 131 You will be with child and give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus. 32 He will be great and will be called the Son of the…[Read more]

Quote (princess @ July 10 2012,19:54)You find yourself in polytheism, and the list continues as the gods or part of a god is added.If by “polytheism”, you mean the BELIEF that more than one god exists, then virtually every writer of scripture was a polytheist.If you mean the WORSHIP of more than one god, then that practice is frowned upon by the…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 09 2012,23:08)Hi Mike,Jammin doesn't seem to understand.He acts like altered texts are legit,even telling us to alter them.      He understands what he's doing just fine, Ed.  But what other choice does he have except to admit that Jesus is not God, but the Son of God? Since he can't bring himself to do that, he will just con…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 09 2012,22:42)Deut 10:17 “For Jehovah your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God who does not show partiality nor take a bribe.Kathi,Is God the Father a Lord? YES or NO?Is He a Lord of other lords? YES or NO?

Kathi,You've got to be kidding me, right? Is the Father the Lord of heaven and earth? Are there other lords in heaven and on earth? Ergo, the Father is also a Lord of other lords, just like King David, Jesus, and many others who have lived.Shall we apply your literal interpretation of “one Lord” to the first part of 1 Cor 8:6, where we are told…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ July 08 2012,22:56)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 09 2012,03:42)Quote (Stu @ July 08 2012,05:30)It is a good question to ask what a god looks like, and no one should accept the answer that it is invisible / shy / “outside time” or any other nonsense.And can you see an atom with the naked human eye, Stu?  Hmmm…………… since you…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ July 10 2012,09:52)what is the use of hebrew and greek mike if you do not understand the verse???why dont you study hard boy.the verse is a prophecy. it talks about the messiah. that verse refers to the family line of Christ.And who are you to say that I'M the one misunderstanding, jammin?The one whose origins are from ancient…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 10 2012,06:45)Mike……..Another misquoted scripture, My Bible says “Satan has desired you to sift you as wheat”   You insert the words “asked to sift him”,  as if He as a Person went to God and Asked him for Peter. Pure conjecture on you part Mike.Gene, All I did was copy and paste the NIV translation.  But here is th…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 09 2012,23:12)There does not need to be an appointment as Lord over creation since that would naturally come with being the creator of creation.And yet here we are, discussing a scripture that says God DID appoint Jesus as Lord. Hmmmmm……………Maybe Jesus WASN'T the creator of creation after all, huh?

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 09 2012,22:54)I think you are missing mikes point it says GOD made Jesus. It doesn't say The Father made The Son it says GOD MADE Kathi if Jesus was also God it would not say GOD MADE, do you see my point. Obviously that should tell you there is a difference and quality in nature.Hi Asana,That wasn't the point I was…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 09 2012,22:23)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 09 2012,21:01)Quote (Lightenup @ July 08 2012,21:32)BTW, what scripture has God 'appointing' the Son as 'Lord'…………You keep saying that He was appointed as Lord but I don't see it in scripture. Is this a manmade doctrine of yours?Acts 2:36“Therefore let all Israel be assured o…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 09 2012,21:59)Mike,you asked:Quote I'm asking if Jesus and Nebuchadnezzar can both be Kings of kings without being the same being.And if your answer is “YES”, then why can't Jehovah and Jesus both be Lords of lords without being the same being?Yes, they can both be King of kings without being the same being. I don't think…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ July 09 2012,22:38)………his utterance was begotten from him……………Oh brother. God begat a word, Kerwin? Just ONE word, making it the ONLY begotten of God? Or more than one word, making the “ONLY” part null and void?

Quote (kerwin @ July 09 2012,21:26)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 10 2012,08:36)Quote (kerwin @ July 09 2012,20:24)I believe the Word is the first begotten of God………So you think John 1:1 speaks of the first begotten of God who was both with God and was God in the beginning?Mike;You know that the Utterance of Jehovah goes forth from Jehovah.…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ July 09 2012,20:24)I believe the Word is the first begotten of God………So you think John 1:1 speaks of the first begotten of God who was both with God and was God in the beginning?

Quote (AndrewAD @ July 09 2012,19:57)I noticed the TS mentioned unitarianism being one of the delusions and I know most unitarians are quite liberal and many or most deny Christs divinity……………Hi Andrew,I came to HN the same exact way.  I was looking into the Trinity Doctrine and came across t8's publication on it, and thought this would…[Read more]