Quote (Lightenup @ July 11 2012,20:18)All that, to say that I have considered the possibility that one being is both the God of gods and the Lord of lords…a triune being.  We'll have to start calling you “Keith Jr.”  But it's good to know the whole background.  I agree with Asana that your entire post is sincere.Quote (Lightenup @ July 11 20…[Read more]

Oh.  Those words were supposedly said WHEN Jesus was on earth?  I thought the angels who revealed this Urantia revelation were saying this AS it was being written down.  My bad.  But are you saying that Jesus didn't want anything written down to teach us because we might interpret the writings differently?  Don't you suppose spreading the gosp…[Read more]

I don't think “begot” is the right word to use of an utterance that came out of someone's mouth, Kerwin.  Nor have you likely ever said you “begot” any of the words you have spoken in your lifetime.  You said:Quote and in the Word is love; which is the light and life of men?I know it is scriptural that in the Word is life.  (John 1:4)  And I kno…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 11 2012,17:51)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 12 2012,10:39)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 11 2012,17:05)…………..previously had biological earthly fathers and mothers just as Yahshua did.Luke 3:23Now Jesus himself was about thirty years old when he began his ministry. He was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph, the son of…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 11 2012,17:54)Hi Mike,God is going to tabernacle in all his children (2 Cor 6:16). …that is what those verses mean. …do you not believe this?I believe 6:16 is speaking of when New Jerusalem comes down from God in heaven. Compare verse 17 “come out of her” with the words of Rev. Also compare what God says in Rev…[Read more]

Kerwin? Gene?

Quote (princess @ July 10 2012,20:53)I am prone to agree with you Mike, due to most came from worshipping many gods, and I find it quite surprising for a man of your 'knowledge' to use such a reference…………..I just try to tell it like the scriptures tell it.  99% of Christians will bend over backwards trying to insist that the Hebrew…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 11 2012,16:32)I believe that particular scripture clarifies Deut 10:17 where we are told that Jehovah is the God of gods and the Lord of lords.But you are overlooking the vast possibilty that Moses was saying that Jehovah (the Father) is both a God of other gods, AND a Lord of other lords. He is both of those things,…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 11 2012,08:25)They all want to live in a BODY in order to animate it.Once again Gene,If spirit #49582 WANTS to live in a body, then that spirit is a BEING, for only sentient BEINGS can want things.If spirit #958473 DESIRES to make me do evil, then that spirit is a BEING, for only sentient BEINGS can DESIRE things.If…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ July 11 2012,17:31)Mike;You wish an answer according to the letter of the Word and I answered according to the spirit.I don't have time for this mish-mash, Kerwin.  The answer to my question is, “NO, love is never said to have been 'begotten', nor is it ever said to have displayed the glory of the only begotten of God”.Nor are…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 11 2012,17:27)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 12 2012,09:56)It's a simple equation:THE WORD WAS GOD + THE WORD BECAME FLESH = GOD BECAME FLESHYes Mike, John 1:14 fulfills this… (Scripture needs to be understood as a whole!)1 Tim 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ July 11 2012,17:12)This is one instance where you say there are none.

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 11 2012,17:05)…………..previously had biological earthly fathers and mothers just as Yahshua did.Luke 3:23Now Jesus himself was about thirty years old when he began his ministry. He was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph, the son of Heli,

jammin,Are you aware of the fact that most of the translations you quote scripture from have been doctored by Trinitarian human beings who are trying their best to FORCE the scriptures into teaching what they WANT them to teach?   In other words, do you KNOW what you're doing, or are you simply oblivious to this fact?

Quote (Colter @ July 11 2012,05:22)Today we make no record of the teachings of this gospel of the kingdom lest, when I have gone, you speedily become divided up into sundry groups of truth contenders as a result of the diversity of your interpretation of my teachings.Yet here you are, Colter, quoting from the record they said they never made.

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 09 2012,07:09)Mike………. Where did i “EVER” say it was the FATHER that said that. It was Jesus saying that………..Okay Gene.I'm just clarifying for all that the Father didn't literally speak through the mouth of Jesus, but Jesus spoke the words that the Father taught him to speak. Many times, the words of Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ July 08 2012,19:53)This is what I have stated in this thread and I have never denied this:“Jesus as God's Only Begotten Son and His Christ was sent by God”.I think Ed will surely attest to the fact that you DID deny it when I point blank asked you if Jesus dwelled on earth as the only begotten Son of God, and you said, “No”.  I…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2012,16:16)Christ apparently did not include his mother in the twelve personal disciples ,and so she was NOT one chosen to be one of them by God,got it Mark 3 31 Then Jesus’ mother and brothers arrived. Standing outside, they sent someone in to call him. 32 A crowd was sitting around him, and they told him, “Your mot…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ July 11 2012,15:36)This the propetic Word of God which is not a spiritual being who became flesh otherwise you would have and “the Word was God” which you say is Jesus and if so, “Jesus is God” and “the Word became flesh” or “God became flesh”.Marty, You will NEVER come to a true understanding of scripture until you rid yourself of…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ July 11 2012,02:34)Mike,Love is the sum of God's Word.Since all things were created by God's Word they are begotten by it while it is begotten by God.Hi Kerwin,Here is the actual question I asked:And is love ever said to be the only begotten of God, or have the glory of such?Please answer with an affirmative or a negative.