Quote (kerwin @ July 15 2012,16:03)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 15 2012,09:04)It seems to me that the non-preexisters really don't know what to make of Phil 2.  You all want to say Jesus was a human being when “existing in the form of God”, yet don't know how to explain how someone who already was a human being could be made in the likeness of a…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ July 15 2012,13:11)Of course, Jesus was born into this world a human being…………….Marty,I've seriously grown tired of this Phil 2 discussion we've had a dozen times.  If you think it makes sense that Jesus was a human being who was “existing in the form of God”, then have at it.  If you think Paul was teaching that a h…[Read more]

Quote (Colter @ July 15 2012,13:16)Yes, “was raised” works because Jesus had returned to the Glory of God………….Do you seriously think it makes sense to say “God was raised from the dead by God”?It seems to me that if someone was raised, there was someone ELSE doing the raising.

Quote (Colter @ July 15 2012,12:49)I don't know why the absence of that detail is odd?  The UB has the entire story with many more details because the revelators were on the earth when Jesus was. And wasn't Matthew there on earth also?  Yet Matthew records the father of John Mark as “a certain man”.  I just find it interesting.Quote (Colter @ Ju…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 15 2012,12:06)Hi Mike,You're rightI'm going to save this quote from you, and use it whenever you disagree with me.

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 15 2012,10:45)Mike……..Was ADAM a SON OF GOD, Created by God himself? So then Jesus was Not a MONO-GENES Son of GOD…………….Gene,Is it SCRIPTURAL that Jesus is the “only begotten Son of God”? It certainly is scriptural, right?  It is apparently not for us to understand how God can have many sons, spiritual…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 15 2012,10:45)Hi Mike,What about as Gene suggests – that God was speaking directly through him?God blessEd JI don't personally believe that, Ed.  I think phrases like “it is the Father who speaks through me” and “the Holy Spirit will be doing the speaking” are metaphorical.  I believe God let Jesus know what words to speak, a…[Read more]

Quote (Colter @ July 15 2012,07:20)188:3.2 Late Saturday night, John Mark summoned the eleven apostles secretly to come to the home of his father, where, just before midnight, they all assembled in the same upper chamber where they had partaken of the Last Supper with their Master two nights previously.It seems odd to me that neither Matthew,…[Read more]

Quote (Colter @ July 15 2012,06:59)The reason given by Jesus for resurrecting himself from the dead was to prove his authority as it had been questioned.Hi Colter,You touch on many subjects that we should discuss sometime.  For example, you remember that Jesus could appear and pass through walls after the resurrection, but seem to forget he…[Read more]

I did not know that about Baptists, Ed.  Interesting.  I also found it interesting that my nephew recently had to do a little course and answer certain questions before the JW's would baptize him as such.  I don't remember the disciples putting stipulations like that on anyone they baptized, do you?

jammin,A long time ago, Adam was the only man on earth. He was THE MAN, for there were no others. Now when Adam, THE MAN, begot a son named Cain, was Cain a man like his father? Or was Cain THE MAN like his father?Which one?

jammin,I answered your question (for the 8th time). I will answer your NEXT question AFTER you answer mine.Are you aware of the fact that words have been added and changed in the translations you quote to “prove” your claims? Or are you blind to this FACT?

Quote (Stu @ July 15 2012,00:02)I asked why the bible doesn't have a picture of the deity on the front cover, in the manner of Origin of Species or other books dealing with things that really exist.Exodus 33:20 But,” he said, “you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live.”Deuteronomy 4 15 You saw no form of any kind the day the LORD…[Read more]

jammin, you are rapidly ruining what little good reputation you ever had on this site.  You run around calling everyone “boy” and asking the same questions we've already answered before.But since your memory doesn't seem to be the greatest, he we are one more time:YES, my father is human, and therefore I am A human – but not the SAME human as my…[Read more]

Pierre……….. jammin, you are rapidly ruining what little good reputation you ever had on this site. You run around calling everyone “boy” and asking the same questions we've already answered before.But since your memory doesn't seem to be the greatest, he we are one more time:YES, my father is human, and therefore I am A human – but…[Read more]

What answer did I give you the last seven times, jammin?  Go back through the thread and find out.Don't you see what just happened here?  (The rest of us did)  I posed a question to you that you would rather not answer, and so you've played your old trusty “answer mine first” card yet again.  But the problem is that all of us know I've add…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ July 13 2012,03:21)While Jehovah is the one that made him in the likeness of humanity. Jesus did not choose to be in the likeness of humanity; he was made that way.And was Jesus in any other form before being made in the likeness of a human being? It seems to me that the non-preexisters really don't know what to make of Phil 2.…[Read more]

Here is he exact post from the “Word” thread, Marty:Quote (942767 @ July 02 2012,19:52)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 03 2012,08:48)Quote (942767 @ July 01 2012,16:23)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 02 2012,01:14)Quote (942767 @ June 30 2012,20:41)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 30 2012,10:14)Marty,Is it scriptural that John the Baptist called Jesus “the Lamb of God”…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ July 14 2012,19:32)Yes, but if you translate John 1:1c “and the Word was a God” that would mean that John 1:14 would be “and the Word who himself is a god became flesh”, would it not?Yes…………….. AND? Aren't we also told that Jesus was existing in the form of God (ie: “a god” in Biblical usage) and was made into the…[Read more]