Sad but true.

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 16 2012,07:25)IN  Philippians Paul is clearly talking about Jesus Preexistences on this EARTH during his day before Jesus died and went to heaven , not Prior to that time, but you preexistences add your thoughts to those scriptures which corrupts and change the context.Gene,The CONTEXT of Phil 2 is that Jesus WAS…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ July 16 2012,01:26)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 16 2012,05:07)From Paul's point of view when he wrote the letter to the Philippians, was “existing in the form of God” PRESENT tense, or PAST tense?Philippians 2 is speaking of an event that occurred.  So then Phil 2:5-6 truly teaches, “Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ…[Read more]

BROUGHT OVER FROM THE 1 JOHN 5:20 THREADQuote (Colter @ July 15 2012,21:01)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 16 2012,12:42)I don't believe Jesus “entered into” Mary's son at all, nor does the Bible suggest such a thing. The Bible teaches that Jesus was existing in the spirit form of God, but then was MADE INTO a human being. He did not ENTER a human…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ July 16 2012,18:05)Hi Frank:I agree that he was and is a man, but his Father is God. He was not born of the sperm of man.Do you see how this works, Marty?  First we start with people wanting Jesus to BE the very God he is the Son of, and the next thing you know, we have people worshipping Mary as the “Mother of God”.You are now…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ July 15 2012,22:39)the man and a man. are they both created by nature??? the god and a god, are they both created by nature?jammin,This is not that hard. The one and only Omniscient Creator of All Things did not beget the one and only Omniscient Creator of All Things. Instead, that Most High God begat a not quite as high god.…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 16 2012,15:58)So does God have 2 wills or one?Very good, Asana. I can't wait to see where this goes.

Quote (Lightenup @ July 15 2012,22:01)This is the same guy that has said previously that he worships Jesus as the Son of God. Yet he is 'amazed' when someone worships Jesus as the Son of God. Does that sound like a confused person, a bit hypocritical maybe?Slow your roll there, Sunshine.  1.  I'm sure t8 posted here accidentally, without even t…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 15 2012,21:43)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 14 2012,11:51)Let's see:13  In the sight of THE UNITY OF THE FATHER AND JESUS, who gives life to everything, and of Christ Jesus………………..Hmmm………….  So “JESUS” is someone other than “THE UNITY OF THE FATHER AND JESUS”?Like this:In the sight of the Church, and of the t…[Read more]

That was a good video, t8.  But the thing that sticks with me the most is J.P. Morgan's decision to back out on the possibility for free earthwide energy because there were no dollars to be made.This greed is why we still pollute our world with fossil fuels.  If not for the greed of those fuel providers, and the greed of the officials they b…[Read more]

Good, Marty. Just remember what I told you in my last post. I want you to remember it, dwell on it, dream about it, etc. I'm praying that God will eventually open your eyes to the fact that it makes no sense, and therefore cannot be the correct interpretation of Phil 2. Our God is not the God of confusion, Marty. And the scriptures are put…[Read more]

He was the Word of God before the Word became flesh, Wakeup. His new name is known only to him. (Rev 19:12)

I don't believe Jesus “entered into” Mary's son at all, nor does the Bible suggest such a thing. The Bible teaches that Jesus was existing in the spirit form of God, but then was MADE INTO a human being. He did not ENTER a human being, but BECAME one.

The difference is not in the caps versus lowercase, jammin. The difference is between THE man and A man. The difference is between THE god and A god.For example, THE man Adam could not possibly beget THE man Adam. He would have had to beget A man, who was a DIFFERENT man than he was.THE god Jehovah could not possibly beget THE god Jehovah. He…[Read more]

Quote (Colter @ July 14 2012,13:38)The mental gymnastics and rationalizations that Gene and other self deceptive people go through sounds just like president Obama trying to say everything is ok in the American economy. Gene sounds like a politician.See, these people simply DON'T believe that Satan was real, but they can't disagree with the Bible…[Read more]

Marty,Just remember that your understanding of Phil 2 calls for someone who ALREADY WAS in the likeness of a human being to BE MADE in the likeness of a human being. That's all I ask.

Quote (Colter @ July 15 2012,17:47)You know Mike, I think you deliberately don't want to understand……..Not true.Quote (Colter @ July 15 2012,17:47)Simply put, the pre-existent, eternal Son of the living God (who is a spiritual being) incarnate in the mortal person of Jesus of Nazareth in a miraculous way only understood on Paradise.I agree…[Read more]

I'm in error?  YOU'RE the one insisting that someone who already was existing in the likeness of a human being was “made in the likenes of a human being”.    There are no two ways around it, Marty.  That is what you believe, no matter how you try to pretty it up.  And to me, that belief is utter nonsense.And the humility Paul was teaching abou…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ July 15 2012,12:52)^^^^Then why did all of these people lie about seeing God? Genesis 32:30 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved. Judges 13:22 And Manoah said unto his wife, We shall surely die, because we have seen God.Hosea 122 The LORD has a charge to bring…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ July 15 2012,16:39)Mike,You hold that an angel has the outward form of Jehovah at the same time he has the outward form of a servant.You also hold that an angel has the inward form of Jehovah at the same time he has the inward of a servant.You argue that Philippians 2:6-7 teaches that Jesus surrendered the outward form of one…[Read more]