Quote (kerwin @ July 21 2012,19:51)I would say a weak circumstantial case can be made for there existence. I see no benefit for bothering to do so.Nor do I, Kerwin.

Marty,The KJV also says “by him” in John 1:3. Why would you answer YES to that question, but then start making distinctions about Col 1:16?

jammin,Does the word “God”, with a capital “G”, ALMOST ALWAYS identify the One who created the universe and everything in it?Or does it usually refer to the “nature” of some “species”?Which one?

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Quote (jammin @ July 21 2012,19:09)GOD is natureNo jammin,God is the name most often used to refer to the IDENTITY of the One who created all things.If Jesus is the Son of the person IDENTIFIED as “God”, then Jesus cannot be that person identified as “God”.

I agree, Marty. I do see the appeal of the UB, though. While reading that passage about Jesus taking over as head of the household, it was giving me a good feeling, like I was getting to know my Lord better, etc.But there are just too many parts of this book that directly contradict scripture, going as far as to call scripture as we know it a…[Read more]

I have heard of the sirens from Homer, in his epic poem The Odyssey.  But what evidence do we have that such a creature is real?  Are they mentioned in scripture or Enoch, etc?

Quote (942767 @ July 21 2012,16:52)Hi Mike:Jhn 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.Is that a YES or a NO, Marty?

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Wakeup,Who is to say an angel is more beautiful to God than a human being – or than a cockroach for that matter?God created a variety of beings, all beautiful to Him in their various ways.And who said Satan was evil when God created him?  Surely a 2 month old baby cannot possibly be evil, right?  BUT…………..  God did not create yes-men ro…[Read more]

Marty, Please read what I've just written to Pierre and Charles about posting. Look at your last post here to Kerwin, for example. Since you quoted his points and answered them one by one, is it really necessary to also have that big quote box at the top of your post?

Charles,We have but one Almighty God.  That one has a Son named Jesus.  Unless Jesus has a Son named Jesus, he is not that one Almighty God.  End of story.P.S. Did you read my posts to Pierre just now about not posting the entire quote each time? You know how you put my words in a quote box and then addressed them? Keep doing that, but be…[Read more]

Wakeup,I don't think it's a matter of what God CAN do, but what He WILL do.  For example, it is said that God “cannot lie”.  Well of course God has the ability to lie if He wanted to.  “Cannot lie” really means “won't lie”, IMO.  So God CAN create evil, but WILL He?Gene quoted Isaiah 45:7, which in some translations say God creates evil.  But the…[Read more]

Yeah, but who did the tampering? Was it originally “son”, and a scribe changed it to “god”? Or was it the other way around?Surely Jesus is a “god”, according to the way the word was used in scripture. So either word could have been in the original text by John. How are we to know which one?

Quote That is only a proof that Jesus' Spirit was the SOURCE of every first species ever created both as invisible and visible creatures. Not that He Himself was created.you start to make me sick with your statement like ;That is only a proof that Jesus' Spirit was the SOURCE of every first species ever created;WHAT YOU THINK IS SO IRRELEVANT TO…[Read more]

Pierre,When you quote the sentence from Charles (or whoever), that you want to address, please delete the words from the bottom box before posting.For example:1.  Hit the quote button on the post you want to respond to.2.  You will have two boxes:  One above that is blank until you type words in it, and the bottom box that contains the entire po…[Read more]

Hi Asana,Some mss have “god” while others have “son”.  Here is a long read about it from NETNotes:tc The textual problem μονογενὴς θεός (monogenh” qeo”, “the only God”) versus ὁ μονογενὴς υἱός (Jo monogenh” Juio”, “the only son”) is a notoriously difficult one. Only one letter would have differentiated the readings in the mss, since both words wo…[Read more]

Charles,Jesus said he lives because of the Father.

Was it three? Or was it four?Okay Colter, I leave you to your Bible for now.

Quote (Lightenup @ July 20 2012,22:44)Because Jesus' servants didn't get credit for creation (but Jesus and God do), Wrong.  He who creates is one, and he through whom the thing is created is another.  I've showed you MANY scriptures where Jesus is listed as someone OTHER THAN the ONE who created all things.  If Jesus is not that ONE, then he ha…[Read more]