Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 24 2012,18:50)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 25 2012,11:07)Your turn:1.  Where in scripture does it specifically say Jehovah pre-existed human beings?Please show the scriptures that EXPLICITELY state the things I asked about – if there are any.Mike,Since it was Father Yahweh Who caused we human beings to come into existence it…[Read more]

jammin,Listen for a minute………….The word “man” can be referring to a particular human being, OR to the species known as “mankind”. I am man because I am of the species known as “mankind”.Are you saying Jesus is God because is of the species known as “Godkind”? Because if “God” isn't referring to a species in Phil 2, then it has no choice…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 24 2012,20:34)MikeAgain, I ask:Did you look into this translation to see how they translated this version before you made your claim, yes or no??No.  Can you post a brief history of this NT in which the name “YHWH” is used?

Quote (david @ July 25 2012,01:04)“that seems an interesting topic and could very easily HAVE IT'S OWN THREAD.”–David.David and Jeremy,This thread is about whether or not God's personal name appears in the NT. How is Kathi “off topic” in this regard?

Gene said:Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 25 2012,09:24) question is “I AM WHAT? I am written about in scriptures ?, I am before him in importance?, I am in the plan and will of God before him ?, I am existing as a living Being ? .And Kerwin said:Quote (kerwin @ July 25 2012,16:34)In the KJV “ginomai” is translated to “be fulfilled” in Luke 21:32,…[Read more]

jammin,Listen for a minute………….The word “man” can be referring to a particular human being, OR to the species known as “mankind”. I am man because I am of the species known as “mankind”.Are you saying Jesus is God because is of the species known as “Godkind”? Because if “God” isn't referring to a species in Phil 2, then it has no choice…[Read more]

Quote (princess @ July 24 2012,19:11)So if God cannot be seen then you really don't know what the first looked like. So the theory of evolution may no be so far off as you make it out to beGod cannot be seen with human eyes, Princess. And I'm not so much against “evolution” as I am against the claim of evolutionists that all this just happened as…[Read more]

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Frank,I'm not sure if the scriptures you're quoting are supposed to be the ones that explicitely state what I quoted before. You are aware that they don't, right?

Quote (jammin @ July 24 2012,19:34)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 25 2012,11:01)Quote (jammin @ July 24 2012,05:42)ill repeat, do you have one nature or form and that is human nature, yes or no?YEStherefore, believe that the father and the son have the same form or nature, and that is GODjammin, “God” is not a “nature” unless “God” is a species of…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 24 2012,18:31)Mike,The translators are not looking at the Greek when they are translating this Hebrew Roots Version. They are looking at the Hebrew and Aramaic which was the common language of the disciples.The NT was written in Greek, Kathi. Any Hebrew or Aramaic version was then a TRANSLATION of the Greek. And the Greek…[Read more]

Well Kathi,If there is no Greek ms in existence that has “YHWH” in it, then they have CHANGED the word “kurios” to “YHWH”, haven't they?   The NWT does the same thing, but only in cases where it is clear (to them at least) that the one being described is the MOST HIGH God – not His servant, Son, and anointed one, Jesus Christ.

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 24 2012,18:50)Do I really need to show you where the Scriptures are that EXPLICITELY state the things that you have asked about?Yes please.  One scripture to support each question, if you don't mind. (Btw, your last post has already made my point for me, but I will wait until you fail to find any scripture that…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 24 2012,18:44)Think a lord vs. the Lord.So now we are letting the choice of an English translator – whether or not he capped the “L” – decided our doctrine for us?   Come on, Kathi.  Was there a distinction like this in the Hebrew or the Greek?Quote (Lightenup @ July 24 2012,18:44)Neb was 'a' king of kings…How do you k…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 24 2012,17:50)Great Mike,You get a shiny star Okay, now will you answer my point:Are you trying to refute the fact that King David was also a Lord of other lords, just like Jesus, Jesus' God Jehovah, and the many others who are Lords of other lords?Also, you didn't comment about my post a couple of pages back.Does the fact…[Read more]

Ed,”Almighty” means “the most mighty”.

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 23 2012,20:46)Mike,Then how abut answering these thee simple questions:1. Where in Scripture does it ever say “Jesus pre-existed his birth.”?2. Where in Scripture did YOUR “Jesus” ever say “I was once 'a god'”?3. Where in Scripture are we ever asked to believe and confess “Jesus IS 'a god' or “Jesus pre-existed his…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ July 24 2012,05:42)ill repeat, do you have one nature or form and that is human nature, yes or no?YES

Scripturally, there are many gods, both in heaven and on earth.  Jesus is one.  So are the angels, according to the scriptural usage of the word.  So is Satan, according to Paul.But there is only one Most High God.  There is only one God of gods.  There is only one God Almighty.  There is only one Creator of all things.Limjunus, I ask you to think…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 24 2012,17:33)Mike,1. Is Jesus, David's Lord, yes or no?2. Is David ever called or written as 'Lord of lords' as his name, yes or no?1. YES2. NO