Quote (Wakeup @ July 29 2012,17:21)EdJ.IS THERE ANY GOD BESIDE ME? NO THERE IS NO GOD:ARE YOU ARGUING WITH GOD BY SAYING;  YES THERE ARE OTHER GODS? YES/NO.What do you make of that verse, Wakeup?  How can God say there are no other ELOHIM, when scripture is loaded with those whom even HE calls “elohim”?I understand it as an emphatic statement, l…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 29 2012,14:32)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 30 2012,04:51)Hi Ed, what does this verse mean to you?       “Ye are even my witnesses. Is there an elohim beside me? yea, there is NO elohim; I know not any.” (Isa 44:8)What does it mean for Jehovah to say there are no other elohim, when we know from scripture that there are many?Please ex…[Read more]

Hi Kathi,This is what I read on Wikipedia about it:Of the New Testament, attempts at translation must have been made very early, and among the ancient versions of New Testament Scripture the Syriac in all likelihood is the earliest. It was at Antioch, the capital of Syria, that the disciples of Christ were first called Christians, and it seemed…[Read more]

Oh, and btw, this “sect” also teaches that Jesus is Michael – JUST LIKE YOU DO.

The more Gene hides, the more I will seek.  Btw, this was really your question, Wakeup – even though I labeled it as mine in my last post.

We are discussing the Aramaic version of one of Paul's letters. I have read that the epistles weren't even a part of the original Aramaic NT. Nor does it make sense that Paul would write his letters to non-Aramaic speaking Gentiles in the Aramaic language.This seems clearly to be a case of Aramaic scribes TRANSLATING Paul's letters from the…[Read more]

Quote (Colter @ July 29 2012,09:12)As for Jehovah that's a recent term adopted by the Jehovah's witness sect. Gods name is not known.The name “Jehovah” has been used LONG before there existed the group known as “Jehovah's Witnesses”.

Kathi,I read that the epistles were not a part of the original Aramaic NT. Have you found information to the same effect?

Gene,Translating “logos” as “saying” or “word” makes no difference in the context or the teaching.What you SHOULD pay attention to in John 1:1 is how only one of the “gods” mentioned is called THE god.Look that up on the site and tell me what you think.

Hi Ed, what does this verse mean to you?       “Ye are even my witnesses. Is there an elohim beside me? yea, there is NO elohim; I know not any.” (Isa 44:8)What does it mean for Jehovah to say there are no other elohim, when we know from scripture that there are many?Please explain.

Thanks for the info, Kathi. So it seems the text might have been “updated” by Samuel or another scribe………. OR ………….. there might have existed a place called Dan as early as the days of Abraham.

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 29 2012,02:29)…if they were both named YHWH from all time then Jesus always had the name so at what point did the Father have a name independent of Jesus to give him His name….?Brilliant!  

Also Kerwin,You have yet to address this:Do you agree that the statement, “I think, therefore I am” means, “I think, therefore I exist”?  YES or NO?

Quote (kerwin @ July 29 2012,02:25)In short, with the wrong voice, Jesus is teaching us that he is to be made perfect before Abraham is to be made perfect.Kerwin,That entire post was nonsense and a diversion from the point of discussion.Gene, look up John 8:58 in the Greek Interlinear.  Here is what the last part says:AMEN AMEN I AM SAYING TO…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 29 2012,07:18)No i am not saying it doesn't mean ” i have existed ” at all, but the word (WITH) define how or in what way He was there. Mike can't you understand this Brother?Yes Gene,I understand. When Jesus says, “I have been with you”, he means “I have EXISTED with you”.We seem to be in agreement on this…………[Read more]

So what is your DIRECT answer to my question then, Gene?Did Jehovah say those words to HIMSELF? Did He say them to a “distinct spirit” that He had created?What's the ANSWER to the question?

Charles says:Quote (carmel @ July 29 2012,10:32)Don't consider it the truth when you read  ONE ALMIGHTY GOD.the ONE is not meant single.ALMIGHTY GOD it is not meant to be ONEBut the scriptures say:  Jehovah your God is ONE.  The scriptures say that our ONE Almighty God has a Son named Jesus.Hmmmmm…………..  Who should I believe?

Quote (carmel @ July 29 2012,08:45)Quote which one is the one and only true God, Jesus or his Father?  Lumginus,READ THESE SCRIPTURES AND NOTICE :Colossians 1:3 Grace be to you and peace from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. We give thanks to GOD, AND THE FATHER of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you.John 17: Now this is…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ July 29 2012,08:14)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 29 2012,02:25)Quote (jammin @ July 26 2012,21:01)mike, you should go to school mike and study the nature of GODjammin,My question still awaits an answer from you.  Here it is again:When Paul wrote of Jesus existing in the “form of God”, what did he mean by the word “God”?A.  A species o…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ July 28 2012,17:50)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 24 2012,10:09)Quote (942767 @ July 22 2012,20:39)Hi Mike:John the Baptist said what you quoted from the scripture about Jesus. John 114 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the only begotten, who came from the Father, full of grace…[Read more]