Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 06 2012,16:54)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 07 2012,03:51)Kerwin,It seems clear enough to me that if Thomas said TO JESUS, “My Lord and my God”, then he was calling these names TO JESUS.Mike,Your conclusion based on the fact that Thomas spoke in reply to Jesus is that he was not declaring him to be his Lord and his…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 05 2012,22:23) The Peshitta Tenakh was completed during Apostolic times with the writings of the New Testament.Well someone is wrong then.  I assume you read where the EARLIEST known Peshitta was from 160-180 AD?If you find PROOF of an earlier one, please post that proof for the rest of us, okay?If you find PROOF to…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Aug. 06 2012,04:59)ok I'll look at it with my trusted KJV!Why?  The info I just posted for you wasn't someone's “guess”, journey.  It is now a clear and undeniable FACT that the word “God” did not appear in any Greek ms of 1 Tim 3:16 until AFTER 200 AD.The earlier mss DO NOT have the word God in that verse.  When the KJV was tr…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 05 2012,23:10)…………..some conclude it infers Thomas is calling Jesus “My Lord and my God”.Is it wise to so add to what is written?Kerwin,It seems clear enough to me that if Thomas said TO JESUS, “My Lord and my God”, then he was calling these names TO JESUS.

Quote (limjunus @ Aug. 06 2012,00:57)Other beliefs: “GOD GOD Christ Jesus MEN” (One God, one mediator between God and men, the God Christ Jesus) Ref. Jammin and other understanding.Which is the right one?1 Corinthians 11:3 But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.Some…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 05 2012,22:19)Mike,His is a large post; but others also are making long posts. All of these reduce my enjoyment.Members,Please remember that we don't need to keep quoting the WHOLE discussion you are having with someone else. Quote only their most recent words that you are actually responding to.Thanks

Quote (jammin @ Aug. 05 2012,20:52)i answered already your questionbased on the biblephil 2.6 is nature.God is nature.So YOUR interpretation of Phil 2:6 is, “Who, existing in the form of NATURE, did not consider equality…………..”? You think the word “God” there means “Nature”?

Ed,This info is about Isaiah 2:18……….Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary18. idols-literally, “vain things,” “nothings” (1Co 8:4).Do you see that even though the word is usually TRANSLATED AS “idols”, the Hebrew word literally MEANS “nothings”, or “things of no value” – as you have correctly posted earlier?

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2012,17:21)Hi Mike,”And said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.” (Ex 33:20)I agree with you that no man has ever seen God Almighty, Ed.

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 04 2012,17:54)And read this:For this diglot, I am using the Church of the East text of the Peshitta, in which I will be following the oriental sequence of the books, which places the General Epistles (Yaqub, Keepa and Yukhanan) immediately after the Acts of the Apostles, and before the Epistles of Sha'ul (Paul). The…[Read more]

Kathi,I've got a better idea:  When YOU can show undeniable, scholarly PROOF that the Aramaic word “marya” actually has AS ITS DEFINTION, “the Lord Jehovah”, I might use even more of my time to delve into this matter.As for now, I have shown what I consider to be conclusive proof (from actual Aramaic to English dictionaries) that “marya” is…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Aug. 04 2012,20:31)mike,is Christ Lord or lord?Well, since the Greek NT was written in ALL capital letters, Jesus is actually “LORD”.  But the masters of slaves were also “LORDS”, according to the Greek text.  Don't play games with capital letters, jammin.  Translators have decided when and if to cap the first letter of the wo…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2012,18:20)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 05 2012,01:36)Ed, do you have expert testimony to provide that shows how “el” or “elohim” mean “almighty”?  YES or NO?If not, can we accept “mighty one” and move on?Hi Mike,Strong's Hebrew #410Shortened from 'ayil; strength; as adjective, mighty; especially the Almighty (but used also of…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2012,18:16)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 05 2012,01:35)Ed,  A.  TO WHOM did the king of Moab sacrifice his son?  (Hint:  The god of Moab was Chemosh.)B.  WHO brought down the wrath upon the Israelites that Jehovah had just helped to victory?  (Hint:  Surely Jehovah Himself would not honor a human sacrifice made to a differ…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2012,18:16)Hi Mike,אֱלִיל: idol, no value, thing of nothingYes Ed,It is often TRANSLATED as “idol”, but the word itself actually MEANS “thing of no value” – as you've correctly quoted.

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 04 2012,17:15)Oh, ok, then explain how God created the sun to the class, Teacher Mike.I can't explain the “how” of it, Kathi, because we aren't told the “how” of it.But I can explain that since God CREATED the sun, it means God existed BEFORE the sun.  Surely you can accept this fact too, right?Likewise, I don't know “how”…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 04 2012,17:15)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)Jesus is called a god in most Bibles, Kathi.Actually, He is called God in most Bibles, Mike. I do not see any that say 'a god' apart from the doctored NWT.What you see is that in every Greek ms, John 1:1 speaks of one who is called “THE god”, and one who is called “god”.Do you seriously…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 04 2012,16:55)I am not stopping my life's activities because you cannot accept it without a mountain of proof.What “mountain of proof”?   So far, you have posted the words from some dude whose name and credentials I don't even know – who says that “marya” equals “the Lord Jehovah”.I have posted three times that amount of…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 04 2012,22:15)You keep switching up info with mike first you said God was Jesus and his Father and then later you started claiming that Jesus was lord and the Father was God so you put the 2 together as “lord God” but when he accepts your own definition and says “God” made all things suddenly Jesus switches over from…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 04 2012,17:03)Imagine if you will, that the sun always existed in its complete developed state, the rays would have always existed then also. Get it?Imagine now that it was said the sun existed in the beginning, and at some point before the ages, the sun begot its rays.Would you STILL think that the rays were always right…[Read more]