Kathi,There are others who think Jehovah is meant by Paul's words, “the god of this world” in 4:4.  Jack even has a thread on this site about it.  I don't right now have an opinion, and admit that the Peshitta could be right about that.  It doesn't matter for our current discussion though, for Satan is called “THE God of Ekron” by Jehovah Hi…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 09 2012,17:10)Hi Mike,Deborah was “a judge” NOT 'a god'.God blessEd JThanks Ed.I was wondering where I would take you next, and you made my decision for me.  Exodus 21:6 KJVThen his master shall bring him unto the judges;The Hebrew says “unto the elohim”, yet we know that the referent is human judges.So your statement as quoted…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 08 2012,19:00)1) A non-existent god.You mean a non-existent el?  How do you know this?Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 08 2012,19:00)2) God's wrath against Israel has no connection     to the king of Moab sacrificing his son.Now you are just in denial, Ed.  God is the one who said He'd give victory to the Israelites – and He did.  Why then…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 08 2012,18:45)I think the word Elohim can only be applied to the Father,not even the son.I guess what we “think” really has no bearing on the issue, because Deborah is just one of the many who are not Jehovah, yet are still called “elohim”.We can't deny that Deborah and many others were called “elohim” in scripture; so what…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 09 2012,10:20)kyou make me sick ,the way you use scripturesI don't suppose I would post it that harshly, but I do feel your pain, Pierre.

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 08 2012,23:13)* Scripture states the Spirit of Christ comes from above; you disagree.Kerwin,Scripture states that the flesh and blood man Jesus said HE came from above; you disagree.Scripture states that the flesh and blood man Jesus said HE came down from heaven; you disagree.

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 08 2012,22:03)Jesus was not one of the angels at Mamre as God did not speak through him at that time; Says who?  Hebrews 1 tells us two things:1.  God has spoken to us in the past through various agencies.2.  God has spoken to us recently through His Son Jesus.Neither of those two things say that Jesus is not one of the “v…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Aug. 09 2012,13:59)Well, since Mike believes that Yahshua was “a god” and emptied himself of being “a god” and then became “a god” again and believes that we can become his brothers, then would that also make us “gods”?That sounds about right, Frank. Those of us who are called to live in heaven with Jesus will be like the…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Aug. 09 2012,08:24)mike,are you truly human just like your father?yes or no?Sorry jammin,I forgot about this question yesterday. YES, I am truly human just like my (earthly) father is.

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 09 2012,11:07)Mike……..You denial that Jesus was tempted in all thing even as we are, is not scriptural.I don't think anyone on this thread has ever denied that Jesus was tempted, Gene. I know I haven't.We're trying to get you to tell us WHO tempted Jesus in the wilderness. Was he offered the kingdoms of the world…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 08 2012,17:36)Satan took Jesus on a pinnacle; and showd him the future of HIS kingdoms.Not only showed him the kingdoms of the earth, but offered them to Jesus saying, “They were given to me, and I can give them to anyone I choose”.Apparently, the evil inside of Jesus was offering Jesus the kingdoms of the earth.

Kathi,I have no idea who wrote that article, or what his/her credentials are.  This is not the first time you've posted the CLAIM that “marya” is a contraction of “lord and yah”.  But it seems to me that if that was the truth, the FOUR Aramaic dictionaries and FOUR Aramaic NT interlinears I've linked for you would have “the Lord Jehovah” as a d…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 08 2012,01:19)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 08 2012,09:29)Eddy?What?There are questions awaiting your answers.1. Which god did the Moabite king sacrifice his son to?2. Which god brought wrath down upon the Israelites after that sacrifice?3. Can we agree with the definition of “mighty one” and carry on with this discussion?

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 08 2012,00:26)jammin.Jesus father is God;but his mother is human of the root of David, so what do you think he is? Half God and half human?wakeup.Hi Wakeup,How about staying on topic and answering my question about Deborah?Was she a “false elohim”?

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 07 2012,22:50)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 06 2012,12:59)Mike do you accept ANY Bible translation? I can't recall any that you haven't had trouble with. What Bible translation do you agree with, Mike?Mike please answer this question, thanks!That is a difficult question to answer.  I guess “NO”, I don't accept any one…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 07 2012,22:07)From what I can tell, when the word translated is written in the singular emphatic form it refers to YHWH…………..And this is what I've been saying all along – that “marya” is simply the EMPHATIC form of “lord”.  Just like “adonay” is the emphatic form of “lord” in Hebrew.  But, even though many people c…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 08 2012,09:20)……….yes the Spirits of God do come before him.So your answer is that “Satan”, in Job 1, was one of the seven spirits of God?

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 08 2012,00:09)Jesus does not explicitly state that he had seen Abraham, and yet the Jews concluded he meant that.That sounds about right, Kerwin……..but is that the part Jesus corrected the Jews about?  NOPE.  I suppose Jesus could have also said, “When did I ever say I had seen Abraham?”  But he didn't correct them ab…[Read more]

That was absolutely hillarious, Wm. Any idea who wrote it?

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 08 2012,13:26)Mike,I do not think you are understanding me. When a person states “you are my lord” they are making a declaration. When they state “my lord” they are calling them by the title “my lord”.I was understanding you, it's just that it now seems we have different understandings of “making a declaration”. Perhaps…[Read more]