Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 12 2012,14:45)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 13 2012,05:02)Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 11 2012,13:26)All the other gods are not true gods,they are the creations of the nations.Those man made gods are not gods at all.In Gods eyes they dont exist,they are mans imaginations introduced by satan.Okay Wakeup,Then you are saying that you believe…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 12 2012,23:24)An honest but mistaken man, once shown the truth, either ceases to be mistaken or ceases to be honest.It was YOU who once told me that Jesus was the Son of the Father and Son Unity Godhead, Kathi. (You later changed “of” to “in”, but that first statement was such a shock to me that it stuck. )I will try to…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 12 2012,21:16)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 12 2012,14:56)How then can you even keep a straight face while trying to build your own doctrine that one who was begotten had already always existed?I just gave you the answer to this earlier on this page in this bumped post.Mike,Yashua is called Yahweh, for one proof that He always…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 12 2012,21:14)Mike,you said:Quote But the DEFAULT is that one who is begotten didn't exist prior to being begottenNo, the default is that a separate life begins in a person before he/she is begotten. I can't think of ANY living thing that isn't a living, growing organism before they are born/begotten.Okay, let me rephrase…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 12 2012,21:11)Do you believe that mitosis is not God's design?Do you believe that it is a manmade concept?All things in nature are by God's design, Kathi.

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 12 2012,16:15)This same WORD was send to earth by God,in a different body(born flesh) so we can behold him.And he is called Jesus.So you agree that the Word was an individual being with his own body in heaven before he was sent to earth “in a different body”?Fantastic. And therefore you agree that the Word was always an…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 12 2012,15:53)Mike b.The scriptures does not openly say that the word was melchisedek;this is why we have to seek and learn to DECERN scriptures.Wakeup,You and journey make an interesting speculation about Melchizedek, and it is for sure that he is a great mystery to us all.But Pierre makes an even better, scripturally backed…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 13 2012,09:11)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 13 2012,03:28)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 12 2012,08:41)Mike………God the Father Spoke in the “FIRST” Person through Jesus often, or don't you believe Jesus when he said , the words i am telling you are “NOT MINE” but the Words of Him who Sent Me, (and again) “the Father “IN ME”…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 13 2012,09:02)Face it Mike you absolutely do not believe what Jesus Himself said regarding the FATHER being in him Now do you?No Gene,I don't believe that Jesus meant the Creator of the Universe, which the universe itself cannot contain, was literally and physically inside the puny flesh body of Jesus Christ at any…[Read more]

Gene, please address my post on the previous page. Is that how you understand Job 1? YES or NO?

Quote (carmel @ Aug. 13 2012,11:58)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 13 2012,02:55)So God was of no use to Noah?  Or Abraham?  Or Moses?  Or David?Sorry Charlie – no sale. Mike,Your eagerness to confront me destroyed you.This is what I said…………….Here's how it went, Charles:Quote (carmel @ Aug. 12 2012,08:23)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)The Israelites ha…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Aug. 13 2012,03:04)you are telling not the whole truth boy. what we can read in the bible is Philippians 2:6Amplified Bible (AMP)6 Who, although being essentially one with God and in the form of God (possessing the fullness of the attributes which make God God),There ya go, jammin.I fixed your translation for you by striking…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 12 2012,22:35)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)I'm starting to get the feeling that some of you guys hold the KJV up as another god or something.I had that feeling for a while now…………..I thought Ed was the only KJV “worshipper” on this site.  It now appears that there are many.Dudes, it is just an English translation -…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Aug. 13 2012,03:02)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 13 2012,14:16)I asked YOU what YOU think Paul meant by the word “God” in Phil 2, and then offered MY opinion that he was referring to an indivual being instead of to a species of beings.What do YOU think he was referring to?i said phil  2.6 talks about nature or formOkay. And which one…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 12 2012,22:05)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 13 2012,14:14)Perhaps you should check into it and find out the truth before making the claim?Not interested: Perhaps you should check into it instead.Or better yet, why don't we all just forget this claim you made without even knowing the truth of them matter:The AKJV Bible society has…[Read more]

Well, We've learned something new today. Ed, try this site.You have the choice of current Greek or ancient Greek. When I put the word “easter” in the current Greek, it comes up with “pascha”. But when I check the ancient Greek box, there are no matches.Also, on the Greek to English side, you can use the Roman transliteration, so I put in…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 12 2012,14:32)The cells in the example have to continually go through mitosis because the old cells die off. This is not the case with the eternal Father who never 'dies off.'So it appears that “mitosis” isn't really a good comparison after all, huh?  Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 12 2012,14:32)BTW, this Peshitta thread confirms…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 12 2012,14:24)You, Mike, need to look at the 'arguments' that are following this quote. I think that they address your concerns.I did look at them, remember? If you find one that proves “marya” actually means “the Lord Jehovah”, let me know.

Kathi, I will repeat: Hebrew hwhy, plus yrml ayrm rmaIn the Jerusalem Targum, the translation of Ex 3:14 most likely kept the Hebrew word “YHWH”, and transliterated it as “EHEYEH”.I have not been able to find an Aramaic word for the divine name of God, and am not sure there even is one.This is also the case in the Greek Septuagint.  In the oldest…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Aug. 12 2012,21:06)tnx for answering that you and your father have THE SAME NATURE AND THAT IS YOUR HUMAN NATURE.why cant you accept that Christ has the same nature just like his father.I do accept that Christ has the same SPIRIT nature as his Father and God, Jehovah.Why can't YOU accept that if someone has the same nature AS…[Read more]