Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 14 2012,09:57)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 14 2012,09:03)Gene, please address my post on the previous page.  Is that how you understand Job 1?  YES or NO?MIke…….. Answer is NOIt must be Gene, because I only swapped the word “Satan” with the definition you yourself gave us.  How can you now say “NO”?    Please expl…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 14 2012,06:35)Maybe this is a bit too much the comprehend the mysteries of God.Heb 7:11 ………why was there still need for another priest to come—one in the order of Melchizedek, not in the order of Aaron?If Jesus was a priest “in the order of Aaron”, would you think he WAS Aaron?  Of course not.Wakeup, I don't want to ru…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Aug. 13 2012,23:04)haven't been paying attention.  where is deborah called a god ?Third post on page 23 – three posts above this post from you.

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 14 2012,09:17)EDJ………Wrong again Lucifer Means (RISING Star)………..Hi Gene,From NETNotes:heylel Lucifer = “light-bearer” 1) shining one, morning starI agree with you that there is much speculation about Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 being about Satan – but it is just speculation. There is no real evidence that…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 14 2012,08:42)Mike……….So post “ONE” Scripture that say Demons “ARE” Angels. and them you may have a Point> otherwise that is just you speculating Again Right?Luke 1115 But some of them said, “By Beelzebub, the prince of demons, he is driving out demons.”18 If Satan is divided against himself, how can his kin…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 13 2012,22:31)To all,Adam's soul was breathed into the body God prepared for him and he became a living soul.That's not quite what was written, Kerwin. Read it again.

Do you really have to ask if he “believes differently”, Ed?  Did you actually read his post?As for the translation information you posted, it seems to agree that these words were marginal notes made by some scribe, and were not a part of any original text.  Therefore, those extra words were not written by John, and are not part of the s…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Aug. 13 2012,23:57)mike,do you believe that your Form is MAN? i know you answered yes a while ago. i just want to repeat it to you.Yes jammin,My form is “man” because I am a member of the species known as “man”. But you can't really apply that logic to Phil 2:6, unless you are saying that Jesus was existing in the form of the…[Read more]

No journey, he wasn't.But how do you ignore the two times Jesus is said to be LIKE Melchizadek? Or the fact that he is said to be “ANOTHER” priest? Or that he is said to be a priest “IN THE ORDER OF” Melchizadek.I can't just ignore these things.peace,mike

1 John 5:77For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.Footnote from the NIV of this verse:Late manuscripts of the Vulgate:  ……testify in heaven: the…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Aug. 13 2012,18:34)In most Greek literature, morphe means “outwardappearance,” that is, what can be perceived only by the senses. So, “form of God” seemsto refer to Jesus’ bodily existence rather than a pre-temporal, ontological preexistence.Bingo!  “Morphe” means “outward appearance”, and Jesus was existing with an outward…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 13 2012,18:25)And the bottom line is that the newer English versions are translated from MANY mss which are much older than the SIX fairly recent ms that the KJV was translated from.”More recent” means more time for ALTERATIONS to have been made through the years.On the flip side of the coin, we have plenty of Trinitarians…[Read more]

I must say though, Melchizadek is quite the mystery.  But remember that Paul only had the scriptures to go by, just like us.  And, ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURE, there is no RECORDED birth, death, father, or descendents of Melchizadek. That doesn't mean he didn't have these things. There are many people in the scripture that we don't know these t…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Aug. 13 2012,18:14)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 14 2012,08:02)jammin, to whom does the word “God” refer in Phil 2:6?  You may ask for help.the Word God refers to Christ.Ah, FINALLY, an answer to my question!  So jammin, you think that the teaching in Phil 2:6 is that Christ was existing in the form of C…[Read more]

From t8, in the “Binity” discussion he is having with Lightenup:Most of the discrepancies between the KJV and more modern versions has little to do with writers adding in extra sentences like the instance you are now promoting, rather has more to do with the KJV using a not so old manuscript (textus receptus) while modern versions of the bible use…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 14 2012,02:34)Due any ANGELS have the POWER to control the MINDS of PEOPLE?Aren't the demons refered to as “Satan's angels” in scripture?  Didn't they have power over the minds of the people the disciples expelled them from?

Hebrews 7:3Without father, without mother, without genealogy, he has neither beginning of days nor end of life but is like the son of God, and he remains a priest for all time.There's that word “LIKE” again. He is LIKE the Son of God, which means he can't BE the Son of God.

Quote (journey42 @ Aug. 13 2012,17:38)Hebrews 7:15   And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedek there ariseth another priest“after the similitude of Melchisedek” means “LIKE Melchizadek”.  And what do the words “ANOTHER PRIEST” mean?NETNotes has this as part of the definition of the Greek word translated as “…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 12 2012,17:25)I'm saying is the English word God should have helped YOU to understand what YHVH was saying.  –  but it apparently has not.And why is that, Ed?If you use the English version of Is 44, it says “apart from me there are no gods”.But then, if you translate consistently, Deborah is still called a “god”.So how does t…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 12 2012,17:20)Hi Mike,When all these 'so called' gods are destroyed from the earth – does YHVH then stop being the “God of gods”?Not all gods will be destroyed, Ed. Gods like Michael and Gabriel and Jesus, etc. will live on.The story you are paraphrasing from dealt directly with man-made idols, which are no gods at all. Those…[Read more]