Okay Frank,Make that THREE that I've read completely now, for I just read the “Angel of the LORD” post.  Most of it was good stuff, but I have one question:Why do you suppose the author assumes that there is only ONE angel in question?  Is there any reason to think that it couldn't have been different angels at different times?

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Aug. 15 2012,17:50)Mike,So, is it not clear to you by now that the author of these articles and I both do not believe that Yahshua pre-existed his birth as “a god”?Is it not clear to you that I have asked a few questions in my post that I would like you to address?Or are you too busy “owning me” to answer my questions?…[Read more]

Actually, Jesus was bringing the spectators' attention to Ps 22, Asana.  He did not really think God had forsaken him, for he already knew ahead of time what he was getting into.  With his final words, he began the 22nd Psalm, “my God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” – and then he ended that same Psalm with “it is accomplished” (“he has done i…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 14 2012,23:08)Mike, The Vulgate is Latin, not Greek. Yes Kerwin.  This is what I just posted to Ed about 3 posts above yours: (Remember that info I posted before that said the KJV “back-translated” what was missing in their mss from the Latin Vulgate?  Well, the info you just posted says the later Vulgate translations have t…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 15 2012,01:52)Hi Mike,It is obvious that you do not read my posts to make such statements.Please explain, Ed.

Quote (journey42 @ Aug. 14 2012,19:07)Hi MikeFootnotes should not be written in bibles.  Men are adding their interpretations here.  Should be a big no no.That's too rich, journey!  I've just explained that it is a FACT that those added words in the KJV are not in ANY mss before the 14th century.  I've explained that those added words have bee…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 15 2012,02:04)Quote (david @ Aug. 15 2012,14:24)The problem with ed's argument is that using the EXACT SAME LOGIC, I could prove that “God” means “father,” or “creator” or “Jehovah” etc.  Of course it does not mean any of these things.Hi David,I guess you agree with my definition then, right?Ed,Why do you play games like this?…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 15 2012,03:29)Moses was made A–GOD.not GOD.Deborah was maybe seen by them as A god,So what is the problem?The problem is in the way people understand Is 44, Wakeup. People often consider the words, “apart from me, there is no god” as a LITERAL statement, and then combine that understanding with the current understanding…[Read more]

Hi Frank,Just for fun, I will analyze a little bit of your newest huge cut and paste job:Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Aug. 15 2012,10:57)And he must have had agood reputation as the carpenter of Nazareth and its vicinity. But in a most profound anduntold single act of self-denial, he laid aside this comfortable lifestyle, left home, andundertook an…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Aug. 15 2012,10:41)What you have been telling me all along is the deceptive lie that Yahshua pre-existed his birth as an actual being and that his being was as “a god” of which the author of the article and I completely disagree with.Frank,Can you tell me how the parts of your cut and paste that I quoted prove that Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Aug. 15 2012,03:41)edj,i answered already mike and im giving him chance to give a translation that says individual being in phil 2.6jammin,I already addressed this point a couple of days ago.  This is what I wrote to you:And btw, you're asking the wrong question about “individual being”.  You shouldn't ask if I can “find a t…[Read more]

Quote (limjunus @ Aug. 15 2012,02:37)You are being fooled by those who deliberately twist the truth concerning Christ.These words sum up the people who believe Jesus actually is the God he is the Son of.Some of them, like the ones who twist the words of scripture in the versions jammin likes to quote, are the ones doing the fooling.Others, like…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 14 2012,18:05)Mike,As you state, Adam's soul was not living until encased in flesh.What? When did I state that? And how would that fit in with your claim that the “souls” of Paul and the elect will be clothed in a heavenly tent? Are those “souls” dead because they are no longer “encased in flesh”?As Ed has rightfully…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 15 2012,05:38)can you call God an angel too?He did bring messages to the prophets,did he not?If the king himself came to deliver his own message to the people, would the king be considered “one of the king's messengers”? Most likely not.I believe the basic meaning of “messenger” is someone who delivers the message of someone…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 15 2012,00:09)MikeSo what you are saying is that Jesus is second to Melchizadek, so Jesus is following after Melchizadek?  So that makes him second?Hi Wakeup,I'm saying it appears to me that Jesus is someone other than Melchizadek.  You are the one adding the rest of the stuff to my words.  Listen, Jesus was also second to Da…[Read more]

So what did YOUR source mean by “Hebrew YHWH PLUS marya”?Kathi, “marya” simply means “lord” according to all the dictionaries and interlinears I've looked at. Doesn't it seem at all odd to you that everyone else seems to think it means “lord”, but you and a couple other “Jesus is Jehovah” proponents say otherwise?You said, “That is how YHWH is…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 13 2012,22:57)The divinity of Jesus did not die but only His flesh which was resurrected from the dead and reunited with His divinity once again.If Jesus didn't die in exactly the same way men die, then how can he be the first of many to follow?Scripture says Jesus died, but cannot die again because death NO LONGER has…[Read more]

Kathi,I wasn't even going to respond to your post until I read this part:Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 13 2012,21:45)So much for your challenge, Mike   Thems fightin' words!Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 13 2012,21:45)One would have to always exist to have that name.Why?  If I named my son “Yahweh”, would it mean he has existed from eternity?    What abo…[Read more]

Good question. If we have faith as big as a mustard seed, we can move mountains. Why then can't we personally heal the blind, deaf, and lame like Jesus and his disciples did?Jesus asked if he would find faith when he returns. Perhaps none of us have “real faith”, only lip service? I know I still have doubts sometimes. I pray for fogiveness…[Read more]

Hi David,The “Son of God” subcategory is the third post of the thread. Oddly enough, the scripture you listed wasn't on it, so I added it in. Thanks.