Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 17 2012,06:31)There is one God, Jehovah, the Father which your verse calls God, and Jesus is our one Lord Jehovah Yeshua, the Messiah.So then the Father is not a Lord, and the Son is not a God? Hmmm……………….Kathi, are you able to show us clear and undeniable scriptural PROOF of this assessment of yours?

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 17 2012,06:31)It is clear that you do not follow along very well and something is keeping you from understanding…………..Oh.  I guess the words “the Father” were missing in the version I quoted.  The Greek text of 1 Tim 5:21 distinguishes Jesus as someone other than “God”, period.  It does not say “God the Father”, Ka…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Aug. 16 2012,19:42)Mike,It seems to me that you rather enjoy trampling Father Yahweh's inspired prophetic word under foot and tearing those who teach His inspired prophetic word to pieces.First, your post doesn't answer the question I asked you – AS USUAL.Secondly, how can someone who “gets owned” by you all the time tear…[Read more]

Kathi,I was just adding to your “Jesus is not an angel being” thread, when I noticed something odd.1 Timothy 5:21 NIVI charge you, in the sight of God and Christ Jesus and the elect angels, to keep these instructions without partiality, and to do nothing out of favoritism.How can you list this scripture as proof that Jesus is not an angel without…[Read more]

Mark 13:32 Young's Literal TranslationAnd concerning that day and the hour no one hath known — not even the messengers who are in the heaven, not even the Son — except the Father.Galatians 4:14 YLTand my trial that is in my flesh ye did not despise nor reject, but as a messenger of God ye did receive me — as Christ Jesus;1 Peter 3:21-2 YLTwho…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Aug. 16 2012,17:43)God??? who is that God? the father or son?Hmmm……………How many Almighty Gods do you think there are, jammin? Scripture says ONE. What do YOU say?

Ed, you just said to t8: “Hi T8,The “AKJV Bible” is the most accurate “English Version” of the bible that we have………..”Did you mean to add, “with the exception of the added words in 1 John 5:7, the 'easter' translation of 'passover', and the 'God' translation of 'who' in 1 Tim – among many others” ?

Kerwin,I want to get back to your claim that the “souls” of Paul and the elect with go to heaven and be clothed with a heavenly tent, and that the “soul” of Jesus was sent down to earth.I asked you this:If the “souls” of Paul and the elect are living, sentient beings after the flesh is gone, why do you argue that the “soul” of Jesus WASN'T a…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 16 2012,00:46)we are a two part being ,1) the soul (the spirit part that return to God when we die)2) the part we need to do things ,this could be also two parts 1) spiritual body or an 2) flesh body ,both are working well and the soul can live in them and become one with them ,I count three, Pierre.1. The spirit that…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 15 2012,23:29)It states Adam became a living soul and therefore he was not a living soul before the breath was placed in his flesh. In the case of Rachel we know she (her flesh) perished when she (her soul) departed. This agrees with Ed’s words. A naked soul is called a departed spirit in some translations. The Hebrew o…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 16 2012,11:35)Then he didn't want to SUFFER which included DEATH any way you want to put it he asked to be saved from it, whether it be suffering or death or both he asked to be saved. He said it was not his will.Jesus was saying, “God, if there is any other way you can atone for the sins of mankind, please use that other…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 15 2012,22:43)Bt if we read that psalms 22 we can understand perhaps it is not referring to Jesus at all…………….You're kidding me, right? Have you read the Psalm?

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 15 2012,19:50)Do you know anyone else named YHWH of I AM? If not, this is another of your silly 'what if' arguments that is not worth my time.Are you saying that if I can search the internet and find ANYONE who has ever been named “Yahweh”, you'll concede that your original claim is much sillier than my opposing arguments?…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 16 2012,01:45)Jehovah told us he would make the Word flesh when he stated he would print his law on the hearts of his people and place it on their inward being. Jesus is the first he has done this with…………So in your understanding, the Word didn't BECOME flesh as the scripture states, but instead the Word “printed on…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 16 2012,17:16)Heb.7:3. WITHOUT FATHER,WITHOUT MOTHER,WITHOUT DESCENT,HAVING NEITHER BEGINNING OF DAYS,NOR END OF LIFE; BUT –MADE–LIKE UNTO THE SON OF GOD.(as clear as crystal).Let me paraphrase your scripture, Wakeup:MELCHIZADEK IS A MYSTERY TO US ALL, FOR HE IS WITHOUT KNOWN FATHER,WITHOUT KNOWN MOTHER,WITHOUT KNOWN…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 16 2012,09:53)Mike B.Just adding commonsense to it.The scriptures are clear: Melchisedek was not born,has no roots,never died.IMO, your “common sense” gets shot down by the fact Jesus was “another Priest”, “in the order of Melchizadek”, who was “like” Melchizadek.We don't know anything about the roots, descendents, or death of…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 16 2012,01:47)he will come again by his new name,THE WORD OF GOD.(rev.19:13).Wakeup,”The Word of God” is not the new name he was given. His new name is known only to him.Revelation 1911And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 15 2012,20:00)Not if it were a translation, but if the English was the original language as well as the manuscripts, then when referring to the Son, it would mean YHWH or Lord Jehovah, or Jehovah, yes.Let me try to get this straight by using an analogy:We all know that the LORD created the heavens and the earth.  Later,…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Aug. 15 2012,19:31)Mike,I often wonder what is the point in your even participating in this silly forum?I enjoy discussing scriptures and doctrines with other people, Frank.  Since you don't do either, and you think this forum is “silly”, the real question is:  Why are YOU here?

Quote (jammin @ Aug. 15 2012,23:47)mikeyou agree that your form is MANwhy cant you accept that the form of Christ is God.Because “man” is a SPECIES, jammin. Is “God” a SPECIES or an individual BEING?Besides, the scripture doesn't say, “the form of Christ is God”. Instead, it says that Christ was existing IN the form of God.Why didn't you answer…[Read more]