Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 18 2012,10:06)El'0him is plural as far as I know; God only is plural;God is not a “plural being”, as the Trinitarians claim. Jehovah our God is ONE, not “MANY”.And the word “elohim” is most definitely a plural Hebrew word. The “im” ending in Hebrew is the same as adding an “s” in English. Ie: “cherubim” in Hebrew means…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 18 2012,09:54)If Deborah was seen by them as a god,just like Moses was seen by pharaoh as a god,thats fine by God; as long as she is not worshipped as a god.Agreed.Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 18 2012,09:54)But we must listen and understand what God said.He said: beside me there is no God,(a creator God).other gods you shall not…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 18 2012,10:30)this is because you mixing the spirit (soul that God gives to all )with our spirit (the things we think,and do and forms in our heart )Pierre,1. The soul, spirit, and body are listed IN SCRIPTURE as three different things.Can you deny this?2. When we die, our body decays, our soul goes to Sheol/Hades, and…[Read more]

Wakeup, truly I tell you today that I think the wording sounds just fine.

Ed? Wakeup?

That is also a good assessment, Wakeup.  I can live with that because I agree that, to the dead, judgment day will seem like they only closed their eyes for a second – not like they've been dead for thousands of years.But the fact still remains that the Greek words can be translated as, “Truly I tell you today, that you will be with me in…[Read more]

Kerwin,The Word BECAME flesh. Jesus emptied himself and was made into the likeness of a human being.These speak of the flesh body God prepared for him.

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 18 2012,02:03)While in Sheol/Hades the soul of Jesus saw the thief on the  Paradise side at Abraham's bosom.This is possible from the text, Kerwin, but not the most likely understanding, IMO.Luke 23:43Jesus answered him, “I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise.”Only one comma, that was placed by English…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 18 2012,01:40)Mike,That sounds reasonable, but why isn't the same context applied to the words “but the dead know not any thing”?The dead are conscious of nothing at all, Kerwin.  With the exception of Samuel being wakened from his unconscious rest for a minute, this is always the case.  They are asleep with their fathers, u…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 17 2012,16:07)i have to ask a question ;what power would the black arts or a medium,have to waken Samuel 's soul ???a righteous man ?You tell me, Pierre.  Does scripture say Samuel was wakened or not?Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 17 2012,16:07)the Soul his our written history ,with all our knowledge ,emotions ,wills ,envies…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Aug. 17 2012,19:59)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 18 2012,08:18)jammin,Many mss have “only begotten son” in 1:18, and many others have “only begotten god”.  It's hard to tell which one John really wrote, but he definitely called Jesus a god in 1:1, right?  So I have no problem with Jesus being a god, just as I have no problem with S…[Read more]

jammin,Many mss have “only begotten son” in 1:18, and many others have “only begotten god”.  It's hard to tell which one John really wrote, but he definitely called Jesus a god in 1:1, right?  So I have no problem with Jesus being a god, just as I have no problem with Satan being “the god of this age”.  The word in Biblical times only meant “m…[Read more]

Quote (limjunus @ Aug. 17 2012,04:06)According to Jammin, Jesus Christ is truly God and offer himself to GodTruly God offered to truly God? two truly God? That's Jammin doctrine and not by the Bible.

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 16 2012,19:33)1. Melchisedek is a mystery; and thats why we can not understand this mystery.2. The mystery is that he is Jesus,before he was born,appearing to abraham.I whole-heartedly agree with point #1.I don't see any scriptural reason to agree with point #2. In fact, I see scriptural reasons NOT to agree with it.We seem…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 17 2012,02:03)To all,Does Ecclesiastes 9:5 prove the dead do not have a chance to enter heaven as it explicitly states “neither have they any more a reward”?They have no more day to day earthly rewards.  They don't enjoy a big feast anymore, nor do they enjoy romance with their wives, or playing with their children, or…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 17 2012,01:25)I believe that the soul returns to God but I also believe it descends to Sheol/Hades.  This seems a contradiction and your understanding of these two being separate seems to be a stronger argument.I agree that your and Pierre's understanding that the spirit and soul are the same seems to be a…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 16 2012,20:33)Mike I believe that the spirit and soul is one and the same……….this is why it says do not be afraid of those that can kill the flesh only but of the one that can destroy both the soul and the body………….So, by your own words, we can see that the soul is something that can be destroyed. And we…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 17 2012,02:22)Mike,* God prepared a body for Jesus' soulAnd did the “soul” of Jesus have a heavenly tent (like Paul and the elect will have) before God prepared the earthly body for him?Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 17 2012,02:22)I understand that the Word was incarnated in Jesus' flesh.So are you now seeing the Word as an individual…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 16 2012,18:42)Terricca………..Spirits are “IT”S” Remember………..But aren't all angels ministering spirits, Gene? Are angels “ITS”?

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 16 2012,18:27)Mike………The Word of GOD came to be (IN) the flesh man Jesus the Christ……..No Gene, because that would require John 1:14 to say, “the Word came to be IN someone who was already flesh”.  But 1:14 clearly does NOT say that, does it?Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 16 2012,18:27)You surely are not so…[Read more]