Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 19 2012,19:56)Jesus is the only begotten God…one of these times you will maybe get it.That part MAY be correct – depending on which mss you translate John 1:18 from.Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 19 2012,19:56)Jesus is not an angel as I have shown you……..I'll go along with that, since there exists no word “angel” in the…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 19 2012,19:50)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 19 2012,11:46)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 18 2012,22:40)Then the LORD (YHWH) rained down burning sulphur on Sodom and Gomorrah, from the LORD (YHWH) out of the heavens.” (19:24) Note the two YHWH’s referenced in the verse.The Targum of Johnathan reads “Then Yahweh's Word rained down b…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 19 2012,18:18)Going by the use of “in” in these it appears Jesus became inside “the likeness of a human being”; the body God prepared for him.Oh brother! Is there no end to it, Kerwin? Is there no level to which you won't stoop?You're talking complete nonsense here, but let's entertain it anyway: If Jesus “became inside the…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 19 2012,19:29)8 MarYah = the Aramaic expression of the sacred name YHWH. YAH is its poetic abbreviation; in translation it is, “Sovereign Yahweh.” Or “Master Yahweh.” MarYah may refer to either the Heavenly Father or Yahshua the Son.LORD = the English expression of the sacred name YHWH.  The English word “LORD” may refer to…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 19 2012,14:14)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 20 2012,07:00)1 Samuel 2:3  KJV…….for the LORD is a God of knowledge, and by him actions are weighed.The REAL meaning:  Jehovah is a mighty one of knowlege.YOUR meaning:  Jehovah is AN Almighty One of knowledge.Hi Mike,In this verse YHVH is being compared to all 'might ones' – you do kn…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 19 2012,14:04)Shortened from 'ayil; strength; as adjective, mighty; especially the Almighty (but used also of any deity) –So let's analyze this definition, okay?The word “el” is from 'ayil, which means “strength”, or as an adjective can mean “mighty”.  It is used of any deity, but especially (meaning USUALLY) of the Almighty…[Read more]

Yeah, I have to do that once in a while too. You just finish your post, which is right below the one you're responding to, just to find out that someone beat you to the punch, and now it looks like you're responding to THEIR post instead of the one you were really responding to. I was just messin' with ya anyway.

Really Ed? All you typed was the word “No”, and you had to EDIT? I'm glad you understand that “el” and “elohim” DON'T mean “father”.

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 19 2012,13:11)1. EL refers to YHVH more than anyone else – it means “Almighty” when referring to JEHOVAH GOD – and “a mighty one” when referring all others.No Ed.  It just means “mighty one”, no matter who it is referring to.  The word “king” doesn't start meaning “Almighty King” just because it is referring to Jehovah.  The wo…[Read more]

Ed, I have asked you 5 YES or NO questions to determine whether or not you can comprehend certain common sense concepts.It is clear from your answers that you cannot. I will try one more time in a different way:Do the words “el” or “elohim” actually MEAN “father”? YES or NO?

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 19 2012,13:12)4. “El Shaddai” means “Almighty breasted one”From NETNotes:The traditional rendering of the title as “Almighty” is reflected in LXX and Jerome. But there is still little agreement on the etymology and exact meaning of אֵל־שַׁדַּי (’el-shadday). Suggestions have included the idea of “mountain God,” meaning the high…[Read more]

Yes, you missed them all. Since you want to play games, here are those points again:1. We can't say “elohim” MEANS “Jehovah”, just because sometimes the word REFERS TO Jehovah. Do you understand this simple concept? YES or NO?2. And we can't say the word “elohim” MEANS “Almighty”, just because it sometimes REFERS TO the Almighty. Do you…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 19 2012,05:07)It is my thought the breath = the soul but it is the breath that returns to God while the soul departs to descend to Sheol/Hades.Read your own words, Kerwin.  You say the breath IS the soul, but the breath (soul) returns to God while the soul (soul) descends to Sheol.How can the soul return to God AND descend to…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 18 2012,21:13)ok Mike lets put a scripture to your 3 point okso let see your scriptures ??1.  The SPIRIT goes back to God who gave it.2.  The SOUL goes to Sheol to sleep with our fathers.3.  The BODY counts for nothing and decays.Ecclesiastes 12:7 and the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to…[Read more]

Kerwin, why are you able to pinpoint something as trivial as “in” versus “into”, but can't figure out that your understanding actually ADDS the word “in” into John 1:14, thereby completely CHANGING the teaching? Phil 2:6-8 teaches that Jesus WAS existing in the form of God (as you now agree with the implied “WAS”), and THEN was made IN (happy?)…[Read more]

Psalm 5:2 Listen to my cry for help, my King and my God, for to you I pray.Psalm 10:16 The LORD is King for ever and ever; the nations will perish from his land.Psalm 247 Lift up your heads, O you gates; be lifted up, you ancient doors, that the King of glory may come in.8 Who is this King of glory? The LORD strong and mighty, the LORD mighty in…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 19 2012,05:48)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 16 2012,11:02)Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 15 2012,02:04)Quote (david @ Aug. 15 2012,14:24)The problem with ed's argument is that using the EXACT SAME LOGIC, I could prove that “God” means “father,” or “creator” or “Jehovah” etc.  Of course it does not mean any of these things.Hi David,I guess you…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 18 2012,22:40)Then the LORD (YHWH) rained down burning sulphur on Sodom and Gomorrah, from the LORD (YHWH) out of the heavens.” (19:24) Note the two YHWH’s referenced in the verse.The Targum of Johnathan reads “Then Yahweh's Word rained down burning sulphur on Sodom and Amorah – from Yahweh out of the heavens.” Both A…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 18 2012,22:46)Mike,you said:Quote I have now shown you FIVE different Aramaic dictionaries that say “marya” means “lord” – not “Lord Jehovah”.I have shown you FOUR different Aramaic Interlinears that say the same thing.Mike, if an interlinear is going to translate from Aramaic to English, you will see Aramaic words…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 18 2012,22:40)The Father can’t be seen by man and so He sent His Son who was begotten of Him.Paul identified this One as “Christ”, their Messiah (1 Cor.10:4). So, if it was the Son of God who led them and manifested himself to them then, and at other times, that Being could not be termed “God” because they saw him and no ma…[Read more]