Proclaimer, the previous five posts contain a total of eleven direct questions that require a direct and honest answer from you… and zero unrelated pontification about pizzas and metaphors and satellites that are irrelevant to those questions.

Only one of the eleven questions requires more than a Yes or a No – but feel free to answer them all…[Read more]

Proclaimer, in the previous four posts, I have included nine direct questions for you to answer directly and honestly.  Seven of the nine only require a yes or a no – although you are free to answer them any way you wish.  In other words, although the number of questions is large, it should only take you a couple of minutes to answer all of t…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  This view too follows observation from both astronomical and quantum observation… 

I think these three potentials above blow away the 6000 year old pizza model. That model appears to be more like a fairy tale for grownups who deny satellites and science…

Such are waiting for the return of a Jesus who has a samurai sword coming f…

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Proclaimer:  THIRD POSSIBILITY
The third option…is the universe is like a virtual world. Perhaps virtual to God and real to us. 

Proclaimer, can the creator of a virtual world also exist within that world?  If so, what defines that world as “virtual” instead of “real”?

Proclaimer: In that case, 6 stages of building this cosmos and could be in an…

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Proclaimer: SECOND POSSIBILITY
The second option assumes by the end of the first day, the universe is in existence. This includes a watery planet earth with God’s Spirit moving over the deep. Read it for yourself. Take the term ‘Day 1’ then look before that term to see what has been accomplished. Note points 1-5 are there before the evening of Day…

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Mike: You claim that the heaven and earth are excluded from the things God made in six days.  God says that the heaven and earth are included in those things He made in six days.

WHICH OF YOU IS TELLING THE TRUTH?

 

Proclaimer:  FIRST POSSIBILITY
The first is that the heavens and earth are created out of nothing or whatever. Then on the first d…

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Proclaimer:  Anyhow, if you can be wrong about me surrendering, then what else are you wrong about? That is a legit question. God is my witness.

Just to be clear, I said you were TRYING to surrender… but I won’t allow it.  But with God as your witness, let’s see if you start actually ANSWERING questions in a DIRECT and HONEST manner – instead o…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  I await your new no 1 question or new evidence for me to address.

Okay, here’s one I’ve never asked before…

The Bible says the sun was made on day 4.  (You say God cleared the atmosphere or whatever on day 4.  Either way…)
How long was each day in Genesis 1 AFTER the sun was made (or allowed to shine through)?

Proclaimer:  i believe I have answered all questions that I have read.

You’ve got to be kidding me!  😅🤣😂  I could fill a page with the questions you have refused to answer – even after being asked over and over!

Heck, I just asked you one today that you STILL haven’t addressed.  Ready?

Exodus 20:11… For in six days the LORD made the hea…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  AGES  Before → Now → For evermore

Now ✓

You obviously agree that we live in an age now

Future ✓

You have agreed already that there are ages to come

Past ☓

Now you only need to see the possibility of ages in the past.

Luke 1:69-71… He has raised up a horn of salvation for us in the house of His servant David, as He spoke throu…[Read more]

Proclaimer, post 900861 was also new info and new questions.  How about addressing it?

And here’s another brand new concept for you.  I’m going to try to explain it in one of your favorite analogies:  a guy creating a virtual world on a computer.

So you’re the guy who created the virtual world/matrix.  You created this world to operate on “so…[Read more]

Berean: Hi Carmel

“THEN AT A CERTAIN STAGE GOT CORRUPTED AND DELUGED FOR THE FIRST-EVER TIME! Genesis 1:2”

Can you bring really biblical elements on this point, because what you say seems strange to me, as well as what you declare previously on the “light”
God said: Let there be light
There is nothing to add or subtract

God bless

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Carmel: For God’s  sake:

GENESIS 1:1 IT SAYSIN THE PLURAL: THE HEAVENS…..  WHAT ARE THESE HEAVENS?

Genesis 1:1 also says in the plural: GODS…..  WHO ARE THESE GODS?

Proclaimer: Yup. Did that already.

And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with Him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, in order that in the coming ages He might display the surpassing riches of His grace, demonstrated by His kindness to us in Christ Jesus.

to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jes…

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Berean: Mike

THANK YOU FOR THIS GOOD AND BEAUTIFUL POST.

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Proclaimer: Thank you for debating me on this Mike.

The word “debate” presupposes that both parties are presenting evidence, insights, and rational conclusions that are questioned and scrutinized.  Since you have not once presented any of those things, this has been a case of me, Berean and Adam trying to educate you about what the Bible a…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  Clearly we have evidence of other epochs in the past. And are told in the Bible about other ages (worlds to come).

The only epochs/ages that we are told about in scripture are the ones that began 6000 years ago with the creation of our world, and the ones to come in the future.  We are told that God’s spirit sons pre-existed the c…[Read more]

Gene:  Mike…….when you create something you bring it forth from nothing, when you make something you make it from something that exists.

Genesis 1:21… So God created the great sea creatures and every living thing that moves, with which the waters teemed according to their kinds, and every bird of flight after its kind.

Genesis 1:25… God made t…[Read more]

Gene:  We have prexisting petrified trees that have turned to pure Cortez,  that takes tens of thousands of years to happen…

How do you know that, Gene?  Seriously… how do you personally know such a thing?