Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 02 2012,17:15)Mike,Paul will not be a god when he has a spiritual body. He never taught, nor did Jesus teach that the saints will become gods.Will Paul be a powerful, spirit being?  If “YES”, then Paul will be a god, according to Biblical terminology.God called those to whom the word of God came “gods”, Kathi.  If one of t…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 03 2012,02:08)I stand by what I wrote above, which I don't believe has been addressed by either of you.All these amazing stories, but no one actually claims to have seen any of it.Didn't I just give you one of the many scriptures that say the disciples were eyewitnesses to these events?  Didn't I address your concerns?  Stu, if y…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Sep. 02 2012,16:56)Mike,Apollos did not hold any “new” manuscripts in his hand, so he did not bring in another word watered down, he was taught from the word already written,same as myself for that factThis is the point, journey. The “word already written” did not have those extra words in 1 John 5:7.It seems that you are being…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 02 2012,17:16)The 'Johannine comma' must certainly been in most of them. (being added early on)It's only in 5 of the over 3000 mss we know of today, Ed.

Quote (jammin @ Sep. 03 2012,07:19)the body died.If Christ didn't die exactly the same way we die, then he cannot be the first of many brethren to be resurrected from the dead.Jesus said that not all will taste death. And Paul said that Jesus truly tasted death for all of us.

Quote (limjunus @ Sep. 03 2012,02:31)The Word is God? …God with the God in the beginning?Makes no sense, does it limjunis?God Almighty cannot possibly bewith God Almighty – unless there are TWO God Almighties. Yet most people let common sense fly out the window when it comes to John 1:1.

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Sep. 02 2012,20:50)Pieeear,Really Frank? Isn't playing games with another member's name a little childish? His name is Pierre, not “Pie – ear” like you've been addressing him for months.Grow up.

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Sep. 02 2012,20:43)My personal note on a Scripture reference in excerpt of this article:Scripture Reference: Then the word of Yahweh came unto me, saying, Before I formed you in the belly I knew you; and before you came forth from the womb I set you apart and I ordained you a prophet unto the nations (Yeremyah 1: 4-5).My…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 02 2012,17:04)HolySpirit/God Most High's spiritSo God's Holy Spirit has a spirit of its own?

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 02 2012,14:43)We are also men of the same nature as you, and preach the gospel to you that you should turn from these vain things to a living God, WHO MADE THE HEAVEN AND THE EARTH AND THE SEA AND ALL THAT IS IN THEM.Three things:1. Will Paul still be in human nature when he receives the spiritual body he was anxiously…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 02 2012,11:28)I do not believe that the soul as any action were it is after dead,because to animated it s need a bodyMy understanding is that to be animated, it needs SPIRIT, not a body.  And the spirit went back to God when the person died.Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 02 2012,11:28)I do believe that the wicked do not share…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,15:34)Hi Mike,In all these verses the usage of “The Almighty” is synonymous with “EL” – do you agree?Ruth 1:21The LORD has afflicted me; the Almighty has brought misfortune upon me.”Isaiah 13:6 Wail, for the day of the LORD is near; it will come like destruction from the Almighty.In the above two scriptures, is “the A…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,15:34)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 02 2012,07:55)Why would the author have to use this second word at all, if the word “el” already meant “almighty” Ed?Hi Mike,The same can be said of these verses…”The mighty God, even the LORD, hath spoken,” (Psalms 50:1)”The LORD thy God is among you, a mighty God and terrible.” (Deut…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 31 2012,23:13)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 27 2012,21:16)That would add up to TWO Almighty Gods, Kathi.  There is but ONE Almighty God.  Jesus is that One's Son.Mike,You claim to believe in and serve one almighty theos and one mighty theos, right? That would be two theos that you believe in, Mike.I believe in the existence of M…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 31 2012,23:12)No matter how you twist it, the Jews worshiped the Father and the Memra of YHWH, Jesus knew He was the Memra that the Jews worshiped with the Father and thought of as the Memra of YHWH. Jesus received worship from many and gave worship to His Father.John 4:22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we…[Read more]

Game over?  Have you forgotten with whom you're dealing, Asana?  Here, I'll answer for Kathi:BD, as I've told you many times, YES Jesus was begotten on a particular “day” (although the Hebrew word “yowm” can mean a literal day, or any “period of time”).  But just because he was begotten (brought out of Jehovah) doesn't mean he didn't already al…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 01 2012,17:00)Mike,Quote In all cases of such relationships, the father exists BEFORE the son does.In all such cases the father also had a beginning and did not exist at one time. Dream on Mike, you can't make an apple to apple analogy. It doesn't hold up, does it.Okay. So ONLY in the case of God is there a Father who…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 31 2012,23:04)Mike,Thanks for reading it. What did you think?I think we miss much of the wordplays and poetry of the scriptures by reading them in English.I'm reading the NETBible right now, complete with every footnote, and they point out all the names and such that make a play on the other words in the verse in Hebrew.…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 02 2012,03:54)Whatever happened to the truth.Good post t8, as usual. I truly wish you had more time available to post on this site.

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 01 2012,17:36)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 02 2012,09:27)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 31 2012,21:00)There are flames that destroy a soul and therefore there may also be flames that torment it; as well as water to comfort it.Fair enough.  Mike,kerwinI agree ,but what is the flames or fire,stands for and what is the water stand for in…[Read more]