Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 05 2012,11:35)Mike,Biblical terminology never calls Paul or other saints in heaven gods.Biblical terminology calls powerful spirit beings “gods”, Kathi:  “For indeed there are many gods and many lords, in heaven and on earth…..”Paul and the others who rule alongside their BROTHER Jesus will be SONS of God, and powerful…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 05 2012,11:41)One did not create anything in heaven or on earth apart from the other.Agreed. One created all things through the other. Just remember the first two words of the sentence, and you'll be in line with scripture………..”ONE CREATED”.

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 04 2012,19:30)Hi Mike,The HolySpirit is God's spirit……….So is it God's spirit, as in a POSSESSION of God?Or is it God Most High?Which one?

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Sep. 04 2012,17:06)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 05 2012,09:17)……….perhaps it is time you check your glasses.Strange that you mention that! I have been noticing lately that my eyes are getting worse.Well, there ya go.

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Sep. 04 2012,16:49)Ed J,BTW, I agree with you that the set apart (“Holy, Sanctified”) Spirit is of Father Yahweh and in turn is Yahweh,So when we're told in scripture that God SENDS His Holy Spirit, are we to understand that God SENDS HIMSELF? When Jesus says the Father will SEND another helper, does he mean that the Father…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 04 2012,01:28)The writer is saying that what he is writing has been passed on to him by people he considers to have been eyewitnesses.And do you have any logical reason to doubt Luke's word that he gathered his research from actual eyewitnesses? Do you have any non-personal reason to suspect that those who told Luke they had seen…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 04 2012,05:33)Quote (Stu @ Sep. 04 2012,23:06)And the anger of the Lord was kindled against Uzzah, and he struck him down because he put out his hand to the ark, and he died there before God.stuhow many times did your father told you not to play with fire ,and like me you did not listen and got burned, Good one, Pierre.

Quote (Devolution @ Sep. 04 2012,05:26)Do you think they understood him?How in the world would I know that, Devo?   We know from scripture that many of even the leaders came to believe in Jesus and his word eventually – but would not openly acknowledge such.  (John 12:42:43)  We know that Nicodemus and Paul were both Pharisees who came to be…[Read more]

Gene,I didn't bother to read your huge post. If the DIRECT answer to the question I asked is in that post somewhere, please cut that part out of all the other words, and paste it alone as your answer.If the DIRECT answer to my question is not in that huge post, then please answer my question directly.

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Sep. 04 2012,15:38)Ed J,I have always found it amusing how mikeballs64 argues with others and I in accordance with the Trinitarian concept (theory) of a LITERAL pre-existent Messiah and in turn wonders why I see him a second-hand Trinitarian that pushes such a concept (theory) that is steeped in pagan/god/goddess/devil/idol…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Sep. 04 2012,00:03)Mike,What regarding your carnal wisdom the words:DON'T TORTURE ME!” MEAN???IMO, the demon meant:  Don't throw me into the lake of fire before the time appointed by your God.The demons know they're going to the lake of fire eventually.  And they surely don't want to get there earlier than they absolutely have t…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 03 2012,22:32)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 04 2012,03:36)Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 02 2012,17:04)HolySpirit/God Most High's spiritSo God's Holy Spirit has a spirit of its own?Hi Mike,Do you get confused easily?Ed, do you believe that the Holy Spirit IS God Most High?  YES or NO?

Quote (jammin @ Sep. 03 2012,21:36)mike,do you agree that Christ had a truly human body?they do not have TWO NATURES mike .Yes jammin,Christ had a truly human body of flesh, blood, and bone.But he has never had TWO natures at the same time. He WAS existing as a spirit natured being, then was made into a flesh natured being, and then was raised as…[Read more]

Let's get this thread back on topic.Gene, to whom or what was Jehovah speaking when He had a conversation with “Satan” in Job 1 and 2?I say the individual spirit being named “The Adversary”. What do you say?

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 03 2012,14:25)The words Spiritual Bodies are referencing how those BODIES are functioning, not a Body type, a Physical Body can be a Spiritual “functioning” Physical Body Mike.44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. 46 The spiritual did…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 03 2012,15:58)By the time we get to “words to that effect” we know you haven't posted anything like evidence of an eyewitness account.  As you should know, the “words” you mean are patently those of people who were not eyewitnesses.Conversations with you are like jumping through hoops, Stu.  That's why I generally avoid them.  …[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 03 2012,15:58)Try quoting the most convincing one, in your opinion.Acts 2:22 Fellow Israelites, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know.What does Peter mean by the words, “as you yourselves know”?  It would…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 02 2012,16:54)I will answer the pseudo kathi's response

Ed, If you have troubles figuring out from context which “mighty one” is meant in any particular scripture, just ask me for help. With the exception of a few instances where it is unclear from the context, I will be able to tell you if the mighty one in question is Jehovah or not.Just ask, and I will help you, okay?Have you considered that your…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 02 2012,16:58)Quote (t8 @ Sep. 02 2012 @ 04:54)Jesus is the first born of many sons.Yes, according to His humanity, not according to His divinity.Wasn't Adam God's firstborn son according to humanity?