Ed,1. There is a link I posted for Devo earlier in this very thread. It tells the number of mss we've uncovered from each century.2. I want you to EXPLAIN why you think these words would be a MARGINAL NOTE in four mss.

Quote (limjunus @ Sep. 20 2012,22:30)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 21 2012,03:54)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 19 2012,22:17)Also, the earlier manuscript says “only begotten God.” The Peshitta has 'only begotten God' also.From NETNotes:The textual problem μονογενὴς θεός (monogenh” qeo”, “the only God”) versus ὁ μονογενὴς υἱός (Jo monogenh” Juio”, “the only…[Read more]

Quote (limjunus @ Sep. 20 2012,22:07)You have two option: Yes or No. meaning, accept it or rejected it.And Jesus said ALL authority was given him. That means God has no more authority at all, because it ALL was given to Jesus.These were the very words of your Lord Jesus Christ, limjunis. Will you accept them, or reject them?See? It's not always…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 20 2012,15:07)It's semantics, that's all.Hmmmm……………ONE Almighty God, or TWO Almighty Gods? Only semantics, huh?

Ed, Here are the two questions I asked you in my last post:1. There are thousands of them, Ed. Don't you think we would have found at least ONE ms that was older than the 14th century and had those extra words – if the extra words weren't in fact a later addition to the text?2. Dude, we know of FOUR mss in which those extra words are added in…[Read more]

What?  Did you mean to post this in the “Word” thread? (Let me know if that's the case, and I will delete these two posts from this thread.)

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 20 2012,15:14)……“his name shall be called” is only used twice in scripture…………….Ed,Don't focus on “his” or “shall be”.  Focus on “name called” – for that is what we are discussing.The list I provided in my last post shows 94 similar wordings.  Please address my questions concerning the first one.  If you are un…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Sep. 20 2012,14:48)CONFIRMATION BY THE FATHER!! Hebews 1: But to the Son: THY THRONE, O GOD, IS FOR EVER AND EVERISN'T IT ENOUGH FOR YOU THE ABOVE STATEMENT TO CONVINCE YOU THAT THE SON IS GOD HIMSELF………………..Charles, What does Hebrews 1:9 say?  Does “GOD HIMSELF” have a God of His own?    Hebrews 1:8-9 is more co…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 20 2012,15:01)You are making two (incorrect) assumptions:1. Alterations are done only by additions to manuscripts2. A copy of a 14th century ms. means this was the beginning of it.1.  I have NEVER made that assumption, and what's more, I've ALREADY told you that the words “nor the Son” in Matthew 24:36 and Mark 13:32 were…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 20 2012,13:44)Isaiah 9:6 refers to what Jesus name is called, not what Jesus is called.Ed,Check out this list of scriptures where the phrase “his name is called” (or something similar) is used.Would you care to go through them one by one, and see if your explanation about Isaiah 9:6 flies?Here's the first one from the…[Read more]

Ed,I'm quite sure that “14th century” doesn't count as “one of the earliest mss”.  Other than that, I'm not sure what you're even saying in that post.

Your question in the last post on page 41.

Ed,Let's take the case of 1 John 5:7. The additional words didn't show up in the text of ANY mss before the 14th century. Are you implying that someone who lived AFTER the 14th century built a time machine, and went back and ERASED those words from the OLDER mss? Ed, you are once again being the little boy who insists the sky is green and the…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 20 2012,13:17)Hi Mike, yes I do.Good. So then you ARE capable of learning new things.

Ed, from the first post on this page:After you read those verses, let me know if you understand this use of the word “father” in the Hebrew culture.Do you?

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 19 2012,22:32)Mike,There is support for either side.I don't see any “support” for your side of this coin, Kathi.  All I see are nonsensical claims designed to satisfy people who want to hear only what tickles their itching ears.But you are an intelligent person, Kathi.  Surely you do not believe that “The Song of Moses and <…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 19 2012,22:29)John 1:1 speaks of two who are God also and Jesus says they are one1:1 speaks of two who are called “theos” – only one of whom is called “THE theos”.

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 18 2012,22:14)Those with spirit bodies can not touch anything; nor can they eat physical food.Nice claim………. but where is the proof to support your statement?How did the angel of God kill 185,000 Assyrians if he could not “touch anything”?

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 18 2012,16:03)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 19 2012,04:29)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 16 2012,08:58)Eze 37:5……> Thus says the Lord GOD unto these “bones” ; Behold, “I” will cause breath to enter into you, and you shall Live: (6) And “I” will lay “sinews” upon you, and will bring up “flesh” upon you, and cover you with…[Read more]