Quote (carmel @ Sep. 26 2012,00:27)Mike ,How many times the pharisees tried to kill him, for the same reason, that JESUS  PROCLAIMED THROUGH HIS WORK THAT HE WAS GOD IN FLESH.No Charles,There is no scripture in which Jesus ever claimed to be God in the flesh.  In fact, Peter was shown by God in heaven who Jesus was – the SON OF God – and Jesus w…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 26 2012,06:34)Mike, Really a 'million word' post.The point was that his question could have and SHOULD HAVE been answered by you with a simple “YES” – for that IS the answer to his question, and you know it.

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 26 2012,06:34)Btw, it is very interesting how you let BD get away with his Muslim ideas but you jump all over my Christian beliefs.Asana and I have gone round and round on certain scriptural issues in the past.  But why would I argue against him when he is speaking scripturally?Btw Kathi, “Not everyone who says to me, ‘L…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 26 2012,02:59)And that god is a man made god called MONEY.With money comes power,with power comes control.I don't disagree with you, but consider what human quality drives the DESIRE to have that money, power, and control.Surely we've all heard the phrase, “to proud to beg”, right?25 years ago, I had a nice house in the…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Sep. 27 2012,07:35)How hard it will be for all that have many possessions,and for all the “successful” blessed christians that never went without.It won't be as hard for me as it will be for some others, because I don't own squat anyway.

Quote (seekingtruth @ Sep. 26 2012,10:08) “At that time THE PHYSICAL MANIFESTATION OF GOD NOW THE BEGOTTEN SON, full of joy through THE SPIRITUAL MANIFESTATION OF GOD, said, “I praise you, FATHER, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.1. I NEVER taught that t…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Sep. 25 2012,17:03)truly Christ was killed bec the jews do not want to accept that he is God.Really? Puny human beings didn't want to accept that Jesus was God, so they KILLED GOD? Did you forget to take your vitamins again, jammin?

Quote (jammin @ Sep. 25 2012,17:03)kathi,mike does not want to accpt that truth. for mike, Christ was not worshiped even if the bible said that. he will change the word worship and use his one and only NWTHow do you say “one and only NWT” when I listed about SEVEN Bibles that DON'T say “worshiped” in John 9:38?  And even our resident joker Frank…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Sep. 24 2012,07:30)I believe Jesus and the Holy Spirit are different manifestations of the Father.Have you tested this theory throughout the scriptures, Wm?  Here's a good scripture to test your theory against:Luke 10:21 At that time Jesus, full of joy through the Holy Spirit, said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven an…[Read more]

Quote (AndrewAD @ Sep. 23 2012,08:56)When I first started reading the bible for myself at seventeen I think God was showing me that the trinity wasn't true…………Quote (seekingtruth @ Sep. 23 2012,02:49)I remember when I first encountered that the teaching of the trinity was false, I ran from it.I can't help but wonder who is calling the…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Sep. 25 2012,12:54)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 26 2012,04:47)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 25 2012,11:16)I showed you that Jehovah is not only God of gods but Lord of lords. We are to worship both.WHERE exactly, in scripture, are we told to worship BOTH – as if we have TWO Almighty Gods we need to worship?To ALL,Yes, we are to…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 25 2012,14:05)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 25 2012,12:45)Kathi,What I meant was:  Why didn't these same Pharisees just come to Jesus' trial and say, “We saw the formerly blind man worship Jesus as if he were God, and Jesus ACCEPTED this worship from him” ?Why would the Pharisees want anyone that was healed by Jesus to testify…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 25 2012,11:16)I showed you that Jehovah is not only God of gods but Lord of lords. We are to worship both.It's this last part that I'm having trouble with, Kathi.WHERE exactly, in scripture, are we told to worship BOTH – as if we have TWO Almighty Gods we need to worship?

Kathi,What I meant was: Why didn't these same Pharisees just come to Jesus' trial and say, “We saw the formerly blind man worship Jesus as if he were God, and Jesus ACCEPTED this worship from him” ?That surely would have been reason enough to have Jesus put to death, and they wouldn't have needed to bring in false witnesses.Also, that would have…[Read more]

Ed,There are four mss that have the words as a marginal note. There are five LATER mss that have the words in the actual text.The earliest ms that has the words in the margin is from the 12th century. The earliest ms that has the words in the text is from the 14th century.

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 23 2012,16:40)Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 21 2012,18:19)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 24 2012,09:09)Hi Mike: not the same.”thou shalt call his name John.” (Luke 1:13)Good scriptural example, Ed.Now tell me, does saying, “thou shalt call his name John” carry a different meaning than, “thou shalt call him John”?If so, then please explain how…[Read more]

Arrogance?

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 23 2012,23:03)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 24 2012,04:06)Nope.  There is no evidence know to mankind that says spirit beings aren't made of material.  Just because we can't touch the thin air doesn't mean it's not made up of minute material, right?Mike,So you believe that the spiritual bodies of angels are material in nature?I d…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 24 2012,15:22)KathiWasn't Jesus also called a servant of God?Asana,It is obvious that the scriptural answer to your question is “YES”.It's interesting that Kathi decided to post a million words as a diversion from giving that simple answer.

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 23 2012,22:56)Oh, and it isn't just my theory, most Christians would agree that Jesus is holy…….And the ground upon which Moses was standing in Exodus 3:5 was also “holy”.  Does that mean the ground was God Almighty?   Jesus uses many emphatical phrases in the scriptures (as I've tried to explain to others on the “…[Read more]