Quote (jammin @ Oct. 04 2012,04:24)the vice president is not the president but they are both HUMAN by nature…………So then you understand that Jesus (vice-president) is not God Almighty (The President)? Good for you, jammin.

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Oct. 02 2012,17:27)You and mikebulls'64 can worship your FALSE “gods” till you are blue in the face for all I care!Frank,Why do you post that Kerwin and I “worship” other gods?  Have either of us ever given any indication that we “worship” any god other than Jehovah, the God OF these other gods”?Please post accurately about…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Oct. 02 2012,16:59)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 03 2012,06:09)And how exactly does Christ leaving us an example equate to “Jesus is God Most High”?    mike,i believe what apostle paul said. he is equal with God Philippians 2:6In Phil 2:6, Paul teaches that Christ didn't consider equality with his God was a thing to be grasped.But at l…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Oct. 02 2012,15:40) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 03 2012,04:19)1.  By whose power did these priest do these things, Frank?2.  And who were the “gods of Egypt” that Jehovah punished?  (Exodus 12:12, Numbers 33:4, etc.)  Were these “gods of Egypt” merely man-made idols that couldn't speak or move?  How does Jehovah “punish”, or “…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 30 2012,22:07)……..their silver and their gold shall not be able to deliver them, in the day of the wrath of the Lord………..Good stuff.

Quote (jammin @ Oct. 01 2012,04:57)limjunus,the bible said Christ left us an example.And how exactly does Christ leaving us an example equate to “Jesus is God Most High”?    How does it equate to “God Almighty prayed to, obeyed, and worshiped Himself to show us how it was done”?  jammin, you very rarely address the actual point in question.

Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 01 2012,16:55)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 01 2012,06:52)Jesus never said the disciples would be able to do greater things THAN HE CAN DO.  He only said they'd be able to do greater things THAN THE THINGS THEY'D SEEN HIM DO.John 14:12 (KJ) 12 Verily, verily I say unto you, he that believeth in Me, the works that I do he…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 30 2012,23:13)Mike,Do you have any scriptural reason that He was named Jesus before the incarnation?No.  But I also don't have any scripture that says YHWH was named YHWH from eternity.  Nor is there a scripture that says Michael was named Michael before we heard of him in Daniel.If his name is Michael now, then what s…[Read more]

Kathi,Asking you to DIRECTLY answer the question that Asana asked, or even pointing out to Asana that you chose to DIVERT FROM the question instead of answering it, does NOT constitute a “personal attack” against you.I was attacking your POSITION of diversion, as opposed to just simply answering the question with a “YES”.  You have now shown…[Read more]

Pierre,There is no need to go through this all again with you. You are aware of how I understand it, and I am aware of how you understand it. We disagree, but I have all the scriptures on my side that say when a man dies, his body decays, his soul goes to rest with his fathers, and his spirit goes back to Him who gave it.peace,mike

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 02 2012,01:58)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Oct. 01 2012,05:58)mikebulls'64 actually believes that this idol bovine god Chemosh that the king of Moab sacrificed his son to was an actual living being “god”! Frank,Angels and demons do exist and Scripture does call them gods…….Thank you Kerwin!  Some people just can't get this…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Sep. 30 2012,16:05)There is no mention in Scripture of “a man-made idol that couldn't speak or move who turned staffs into snakes, and water into blood, and made frogs cover the land in Egypt.”Okay Frank, Then by whose power did the priests of Egypt match the first three signs and wonders that Jehovah did through Moses?…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 02 2012,08:04)Certainly this is a debated book and I dare say that you do not believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God.Really?    Are you saying that unless Andrew believes Jesus is God Almighty, he can't believe Jesus is the Son of and Anointed One of God Almighty?  Kathi, why must we believe Jesus is the Most Hi…[Read more]

Quote (AndrewAD @ Oct. 02 2012,01:09)Now according to the trinitarian dogma God can't have a God because they are three equal persons,each being in and of themselves the one true God.But this verse says God does have a God.Another good post, Andrew.What you say is true of “real” Trinitarians, since they believe in ONE God, who consists of three…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 01 2012,22:54)Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 01 2012,20:04)KathiTit 2:13, 14…while we wait for the blessed hope—the glorious appearing of “our great God and Savior”, Jesus Christ, Who gave himself for us, “that he (Jesus) might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works”.  …[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 01 2012,22:45)Pierre,This verse is translated in a variety of ways………..New International Version (©1984)”Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever…..New Living Translation (©2007)”Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever….New American Standard Bible (©1995)”YOUR THRONE, O GOD, IS FOREVER AND EV…[Read more]

Quote (AndrewAD @ Oct. 01 2012,15:04)Kathi,My first question about this ancient Syriac document is if it was found with one of St.Peters teeth or an angel feather to help authenticate it. Its interesting how the author uses Petrine and Johannine thought coupled with liturgical and much later theological expressions.Clearly something Peter would…[Read more]

Quote (AndrewAD @ Sep. 30 2012,19:04)Revelation 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.Revelation 13:8NASB © All who dwell on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 30 2012,14:39)Quote The reality is Jesus doesn't have a father and the Father doesn't have a son since they are both uncreated eternal Gods. Not if one was eternally within the other as an offspring. Kathi, in what particular scripture can we read about Jesus being eternally within his Father and God?

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 30 2012,13:39)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)And if we were told that the First Adam has existed from eternity, would this mean the Second Adam – the one the first Adam begot at some time – has also existed from eternity?If the first Adam existed from eternity, then he would be God. If the second Adam was the son of the first Adam…[Read more]