Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Oct. 04 2012,12:39)m'64,……..it is my understanding that you recognize YOUR “Jesus” as “a god”, right? And would not YOUR “Jesus” be another “god” other than YOUR “Jehovah God”?Frank,I worship and serve as God ONLY Jehovah – the God of gods who created the heavens, the earth, and everything in them, including His Son Jesus…[Read more]

Ed,I've posted the scriptures for you and all to see. If YOU want to change the tenses, and add your own thoughts into those scriptures, I can't stop you.I will recommend that you let the scriptures teach you instead of trying to teach them.

The scriptural version:John 20:28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”  (The pronoun “him” refers back to “Jesus”, who was named in verse 26……..just like the pronoun “he” in verse 27 also refers back to “Jesus”.)Ed's version:28 Thomas said to Jehovah, whom Thomas noticed dwelling in Jesus, “My Lord and my God!”Ed, one of these two vers…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Oct. 03 2012,04:45)I too believe the soul remains after death however, I am open to them being alive in the sense that the souls under the altar of God were told to rest a little longer after they inquired of YHWH when he would avenge their split blood.I believe that these souls under the alter are those about whom Jesus said, “not all…[Read more]

Yes Ed.In fact it seems fairly simple – like a 3rd grader could understand it. If the one being known as “God” is “in” someone else, then that someone else cannot possibly be the God who was “in” him.

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 04 2012,11:34)Mike,When you leave out an important part, then that is not completely accurate. So, no, you were not completely accurate only partially accurate. Please refrain from telling others what I believe. I have to go to private discussions to get away from your attempt to belittle and confuse the person I am…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 04 2012,09:52)Do you know of a mightier Father?Do you know of a mightier Son?If not, is the Father the mightiest Father, the Almighty Father?Is the Son the mightiest Son, the Almighty Son?Do YOU know of a mightier who was a liar and a manslayer from the beginning?If not, then Satan is ALSO an Almighty God in his own…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 04 2012,10:59)BD and Mike,Jesus is not the Almighty  'Father,' He is the Almighty 'Son'! Do either of you know of a greater son who has more authority than the one who was named Jesus, if so then tell us about him. If not, Jesus is the Almighty Son in regards to all creation.That would mean that Satan is the Almighty God…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 02 2012,21:09)Jesus was telling them that God was doing the works through him not that he had this power of his own accord and so Jesus instructed that God could also work through those of faith. SO the main point was that if Jesus were God Almighty he could not have made such a statement, hence the scripture.Acts 2:22Ye…[Read more]

Also Ed:Matthew 22 After Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the time of King Herod, Magi from the east came to Jerusalem 2 and asked, “Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? 4 When he had called together all the people’s chief priests and teachers of the law, he asked them where the Christ was to be born. 5 “In Bethl…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 04 2012,11:19)Mike,You were only speaking a half truth. You leave out the part about the perfect unity as one Most High authority/Godhead. Please stop telling people what I believe because you only present half truths.Kathi,I ask you once again:Did I speak accurately when I told Andrew that you believe in and worship TWO…[Read more]

Also Ed:Luke 2:11 Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is Christ the Lord.The word “is” was written in the Greek PRESENT tense, not the FUTURE tense.

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 04 2012,10:31)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 05 2012,03:14)Andrew,(Although, there are many examples of God speaking of things that WILL BE as if they had ALREADY HAPPENED.)Hi Mike,Yes, like Jesus being called born “Christ” when it actually happened  A-F-T-E-R  his baptism.25 Now there was a man in Jerusalem called Simeon, who was r…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 04 2012,11:03)Jesus was “a fractal” of God – not 'a lesser version' of God.No Ed,Jesus was the Son of God – from the moment God brought him into existence before the ages, to the time he was on earth, and even unto today.He is, was, and will always remain the Son of God – not a “fractal of God”.

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 04 2012,09:52)Actually this has been taught in the Bible and the early church. What has changed is terminology and the twisting of truth has misconstrued the truth.TWO Most High Gods are taught in the Bible?   You are correct that “the twisting of truth has misconstrued the truth”.Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 04 2012,09:52)Mike…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 04 2012,09:18)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 02 2012,10:36)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 30 2012,13:39)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)And if we were told that the First Adam has existed from eternity, would this mean the Second Adam – the one the first Adam begot at some time – has also existed from eternity?If the first Adam existed from…[Read more]

Quote (AndrewAD @ Oct. 03 2012,18:47)If I understand the trinity doctrine correctly they do teach Jesus was 100% God and 100% man at the same time on earth and in heaven right?Right, but then, when confronted with the scriptures that teach of Jesus praying to, obeying, and worshiping his and our God, they turn the tables and say, Well, Jesus was…[Read more]

Quote (AndrewAD @ Oct. 03 2012,15:08)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 03 2012,02:53)Quote (AndrewAD @ Sep. 30 2012,19:04)Revelation 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.Revelation 13:8NASB © All who dwell on the earth will worship him,…[Read more]

Quote (AndrewAD @ Oct. 03 2012,15:42)I looked into the church a bit and felt tempted to join for the food alone;there's some wealthy Greeks who can really put on a wonderful spread.It is said that the way to a man's heart is through his stomach!  Quote (AndrewAD @ Oct. 03 2012,15:42)But this document is just another among thousands of bogus…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Oct. 03 2012,13:54)Mike,It seems, you are about to admit that Jesus is God in flesh, since GOD WAS IN HIS HOLY SERVANT JESUS’FLESH BODY. No Charles, Because, unlike you, I am able to understand the DIFFERENCE between “God was in him” and “He was God”.God was also in Moses, doing the signs and wonders for Pharaoh.  Surely you do…[Read more]