Quote (jammin @ Oct. 26 2012,00:11)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 26 2012,05:05)Quote (jammin @ Oct. 24 2012,11:51)monogenes could also mean ONLY SONWrong, jammin.  “Monogenes HUIOS” means “only son”, or, more correctly, “only begotten son”.  Without the word “huios”, there is no way to get “son” out of “monogenes”.  Get it?  “Monogenes” means “only gen…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Oct. 25 2012,14:54)FOR I BECAME A HUMAN NOT TO DO MY WILL AS A HUMAN BUT TO DO THE WILL OF HIM, AS GOD IN FLESH, WHO SENT ME!!!So “God in Flesh” does the will of who……………  “God in Spirit”?   If “God in Flesh” truly is God Almighty, then whose will was “God Almighty” doing while he was on earth?

Hi Marlin,Your post didn't actually address the fact that the Son had a DIFFERENT will than his Father and God.  Why not?You've also listed a bunch of claims that you believe the scriptures make.  I won't address all of them in one post, but will be happy to address them all, one at a time, if you'd like.  I will address the first one with this po…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 24 2012,22:45)Why in the world would angels and men be YHWH since they were created??  You can't be YHWH and have a created beginningBingo!  Jesus was created as the first of YHWH's works, and Micah 5 speaks about his beginning.Surely you can now at least see why we don't buy into your “eternal YHWH the Son” fantasy, r…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 24 2012,22:05)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 23 2012,13:55)Is the second Almighty God capable of doing something for us that the first one cannot do?  YES or NO?Yes, one is a Father/God to us and one is a Brother/Lord to us.But if they can both do the same thing for us, then what difference would it make to us if our God was our…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Oct. 24 2012,23:55)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)I too would like to see the scriptural support of many of the things you promote on this site.Mike,IN THE NAME OF JESUS:WITH PLEASURE!BUT FIRST YOU MUST ASK EACH ONE SPECIFICLY AND SEPEARATELY!Peace and love in JesusCharlesOkay my friend.  Let's start with this one:Quote LIGHTENUP,THERE'S…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Oct. 24 2012,11:51)monogenes could also mean ONLY SONWrong, jammin.  “Monogenes HUIOS” means “only son”, or, more correctly, “only begotten son”.  Without the word “huios”, there is no way to get “son” out of “monogenes”.  Get it?  “Monogenes” means “only generated”.  “Theos” means “god”.  And “Huios” means “son”.  If the word “…[Read more]

I agree Ed.  This is a crazy topic.  I might exercise my free will to get out while the getting is good.  But not until I make this comment to Dennison:I hear what you are saying, D.  In the case of Pharaoh before the exodus, his will was controlled by God to a point.  He might have let the Israelites go long before the firstborn were killed, but…[Read more]

Rich,Your first posts led me to believe that you are a Trinitarian, and that you aimed to support the Trinity Doctrine by claiming that man is comprised of three things, a soul, a spirit, and a body.Since then, not one person here has argued that man is NOT comprised of these three things – yet you still keep trying to teach this to us, as if we…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 25 2012,10:55)Mike,Notice your verse does not say 'Most High YHWH,' or 'Most High Lord.'And why do you suppose this demon, “knowing” that Jesus is the “Most High Yahweh, Lord of lords”, didn't address him as such?Why did the demon address him as the SON OF the Most High God, knowing that Jesus was also one of our TWO Most…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 25 2012,10:49)Hi Mike,I guess that meant that he was asking him to swear to himself then, right?  God blessEd JThere is a time in the OT where Jehovah swears by Himself, and to tell you the truth, I'm surprised Kathi didn't answer with that verse.

Kathi,The SON OF the Most High God cannot also be the Most High God UNLESS you believe in TWO Most High Gods.You do, so many things in scripture simply don't apply to you.  See, you have forsaken the most critical teaching of the Bible:  Yahweh your God is ONE.You point out that the Hebrew word “echad” can refer to a unity of more than one i…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 23 2012,17:18)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 23 2012,14:55)Also Kathi, t8's list is geared more toward those who believe in ONE Almighty God, who is a trinity of three persons.The test was not designed for people like you, who unscripturally believe we have TWO separate Almighty Gods.  Mike,What 'list' of scriptures tears down…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 24 2012,13:38)If Abraham, from his own conception, already saw Jesus’ day, then why would he rejoice “at the thought of seeing” it?The same way John might rejoice at the thought of someday actually seeing, with his own eyes, the things he was shown via prophecy in Revelation.  If you were shown some wonderful, future event…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 24 2012,09:20)Mike……..I believe Jesus preexisted before Abraham not as a Sentential Being, But preexisted in the Plan and will of God………Well Gene,At least you are understanding “Before Abraham EXISTED” correctly.  Kerwin is trying to nonsensically change that obvious meaning to “Before Abraham IS TO BECOME”.…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 22 2012,17:21)Here Mike, I see that it is your birthday so here is a present for you:This should interest you regarding this subject. Thank you so much, Kathi!  This is truly a great birthday present for me!  I have only watched the first one, due to time constaints, but it is wonderful.I will urge Ed, Dennison, and all e…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 22 2012,17:15)Watch this for a scholar teaching about the Jewish Trinity: Israelite MonotheismHe specializes and has a doctorate in studying ancient texts. This will be helpful to all!Hi Kathi,I started your video, and within the first 3 minutes, the guy said he was going to “give us a target”, and show us how to read OT…[Read more]

Hey! Runaway Kid? Are you out there? Come back and answer to Ex 7:17.If you don't, I'll just bring it up again in a different thread in which you are talking to me.

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 23 2012,14:14)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 24 2012,06:48)Is the Holy Spirit of God the son of God?  YES or NO?NoGood enough then.  Read John 1:14-18, Ed.  This very Word who became flesh is the only begotten Son of God who came to make God known to us.You say the Holy Spirit is NOT the Son of God, right?  That means the Holy Spi…[Read more]

Thanks to God, Dennison and Gene have the FREE WILL to decide whether or not they CHOOSE to believe in FREE WILL.