Quote (david @ Oct. 31 2012,23:22)I'm saying every hint of Jesus human life was extinguished.  He died died.  He gave up the life he had, his human life.  When he gave it up, there was no Jesus.  He didn't exist at all.That is also how I understand it.Quote (david @ Oct. 31 2012,23:22)But, when he was resurrected, he was not given back what he gav…[Read more]

Okay then, play it out.

Quote (Marlin1 @ Oct. 31 2012,22:24)You may even be right with that some scriptures are not in the earliest manuscripts.Well Marlin,If certain words were not in the oldest mss, but then started showing up IN THE MARGINS of more recent mss, and finally ended up IN THE TEXT of even more recent mss, then it doesn't really take a rocket scientist to…[Read more]

Quote (Marlin1 @ Oct. 31 2012,22:24)Jesus said He would build His church upon the rock of REVELATION of who He is and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.And what exactly was that “rock of revelation”, Marlin?  That Jesus was God Almighty?  Or that Jesus was the SON OF God Almighty?Which one?

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 01 2012,10:50)That is good that you answered jammin.Glad you're happy. Now be a good girl and answer my questions.

Quote (jammin @ Nov. 01 2012,09:18)mike said: “NO, there is no translation that says the words, “his God” in Phil 2.mike said:“NO, I don't know of any English Bible that translates “monogenes” as “uniquely generated”. ——–thank you mike for answering. you are really a false teacher. How so, jammin?  Do you really believe that if the words…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 01 2012,10:50)Mike,Here is a verse, 'gods':Gal 4:6 However at that time, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those which by nature are no gods.And is that the defintion you want to use for the first “God” in Phil 2:6, Kathi?Are you claiming that Jesus was existing in the form of “gods”, but didn't consider…[Read more]

Kathi,Are eternal beings ever said to have been “born”? How about “begotten”? “Created”? “Brought forth as the first of someone else's works”? Are they ever said to be “sons”?We all agree that God the Father has existed from etenity, right? So let's use Him as the test:Is God the Father ever said to have been “born”, “created”, “begotten”, or…[Read more]

I'm still waiting for the scripture that says God was “eternally a Father”.

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 01 2012,04:42)The crazy thing is Mike is “I am” (Ego Eimi) is mentioned a number of times in scripture by Jesus and other beings such as angels and men and as far as I have read, not one is talking about being a mere memory, but is directly relating the words to them existing.Agreed. And along those same lines, when Jesus says “th…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 01 2012,04:42)Yet they take Jesus one to have a different meaning. And why do they do that. One word. “BIAS”.Pure, unadulterated bias is the ONLY reason behind the Bizzaro World tactic I highlighted and called “Only in the Case of Jesus”.

Quote (david @ Nov. 01 2012,17:00)Now, we just need a name.Well, “The Three Musketeers” has already been thrown out there. David, I think I'm beginning to see where you're going with this, but you'll never make it – for one big reason.Anyway, I'll wait and let you have your say – for I could be mistaken about where you're going.

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 01 2012,01:44)Actually I thought of a better username for you Mike.Me T8You K9.

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 01 2012,15:53)You try too hard to make external doctrines out of things that are just mentions of things as they are.Amen!

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 01 2012,06:30)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 28 2012,20:50)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 27 2012,23:39)If the Father is the only true God, as you claim, the Son is the only true ____.Please fill in the blank, thanks!“Son, Servant, Messiah, Prophet, and Lamb OF God”.Thanks Mike,Do you think that 'Lord' should be on that list?“Lord” could…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 28 2012,23:06)15The man went away and told the Jews that it was Jesus who had made him well.And?    Aren't we told that the God of us and of Jesus did great signs and wonders through His holy servant Jesus?God also did great signs and wonders through many of His other servants throughout the scriptures.  Are any of them eq…[Read more]

Quote (Marlin1 @ Oct. 31 2012,20:48)JOHN 10:30 † I and my Father are one.Believe the scriptures my brother,God is our Saviour and His Name is the Lord Jesus Christ.I see that you are still bringing up even more “trinity proof texts”, while ignoring the fact that I've shot all the other ones down so far. That's okay, keep them coming. First of a…[Read more]

Marlin,Your point was that God was LITERALLY the ONLY Savior, and therefore, Jesus, as a Savior, must BE God.I pointed out to you that God has SENT other saviors to His people, right?My question is why Jesus has to be the God who sent him to be our savior, while these other ones aren't the God who sent them.Saying that Jesus is the only one who…[Read more]

That is the point David is trying to make, Pierre. He doesn't believe that Jesus lived in a human state for those 40 days. He believes like you and I used to – that Jesus was raised immediately from death as a spirit being.