Quote (carmel @ Nov. 03 2012,01:00)Quote (t8 @ Nov. 03 2012,10:04)1 Corinthians 11:3 Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.A BODY WITHOUT A HEAD DOES NOT EXIST IN THE TRUTH!!!THEREFORE IF THE HEAD OF CHRIST IS GOD, JESUS CHRIST IS THE TRUE VISIBLE…[Read more]

Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 02 2012,17:49) Quote (mikeboll @ 64)And what exactly was that “rock of revelation”, Marlin?  That Jesus was God Almighty?  Or that Jesus was the SON OF God Almighty?Which one?Brother Mike,If a revelation could be taught, then it wouldn't take a revelation from God, would it.Hi Marlin,Why didn't you actually answer my q…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 02 2012,17:04)It stands to reason that if Jesus doesn't know that date it shows that Jesus only knows what the Father reveals to him.You mean like this:John 5:20For the Father loves the Son and shows him all he does. Yes, to your amazement he will show him even greater things than these.

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 02 2012,15:51)jammin,That is so cool, I learned something new…you are right it is in the Bible!Kathi, I learned the saying, “Bible isn't in the Bible” from you a long time ago. And yes, I've known for a long time that the Greek word for “book” is “biblios” – or something close to that. And yes, I know that “Bible” just…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 02 2012,14:38)John 16:30Now are we sure that thou knowest all things, and needest not that any man should ask thee: by this we believe that thou camest forth from God.Kathi,Those “knowest all things” words were also said about some of Jesus' disciples. Perhaps they are also God Almighty?

Quote (jammin @ Nov. 02 2012,02:44)who is that GOD that you are referring to?YHWH, jammin.  I'm referring to our ONE and ONLY Almighty God, YHWH.Does our ONE and ONLY Almighty God, YHWH, have a son named Jesus?  YES or NO?

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 02 2012,08:58)Mike,I'm saying that Jesus existed in god type nature.So in other words, Jesus was existing in SPIRIT form like his God Jehovah, and like all the other gods (powerful spirit beings) who exist in heaven along with Jehovah?  I concur.  I believe that's exactly what it's saying. As with John 1:1c, Paul's use of t…[Read more]

Oh. So then your “one body, one Lord, one God, and one Spirit” verse doesn't really teach what you claim it teaches, right?If it did, then the one body would be an equal member with the one Lord, one God, and one Spirit.Perhaps you should try to refute t8's point using a different scripture, since this one doesn't work for you.

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 01 2012,20:45)……Jesus is making Himself out to be the Son of God and therefore God……Kathi, what sane person would even utter those words?  John is the SON OF Mary, and therefore Mary.Bill is the SON OF the President, and therefore the President.Clive is the SON OF the Queen of England, and therefore the Queen of…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 01 2012,20:45)Mike,I think this sums things up to show that Jesus is making Himself out to be the Son of God and therefore God with the Father:I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself……………I enjoy your sense of humor, Kathi.

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 28 2012,01:49)The only spirit beings I know of are ghosts and perhaps certain demons.God is spirit, Kerwin. And He is a “being”, because He exists. Therefore, God is a “spirit being”. So are His angels. And so is His Son once again. (You are correct about demons.)

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 28 2012,01:49)There are no resurrected spirit beings but instead there are human beings who have been clothed with Spiritual bodies.Hmmmm…………Wouldn't a being who is no longer flesh, but clothed with a spiritual body, be a “spirit being”?

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 01 2012,20:14)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 01 2012,18:57)I'm still waiting for the scripture that says God was “eternally a Father”.Mike,You have to use your reasoning skills…………….So in other words, “NO”, there is no scripture that says God was “eternally a Father”?Didn't think so.

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 01 2012,20:08)4There is one body and one Spirit, just as also you were called in one hope of your calling; 5one Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all.Are WE not the “one body”, Kathi?  Are WE then included in this “Divine Echad” of God?If not, then your bias is…[Read more]

Jesus is never said to have been created?  I take it that you no longer consider “wisdom” in Provebs 8 to be speaking about Jesus then?It seems we BOTH agree that God the Father is from eternity, and that He is never said to have been “born”, “begotten”, “brought forth into existence”, “have origins”, or be a “son”.So if the One we AGREE ON as…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 01 2012,01:18)…….when dies, it corrupts (rots)When Christ was raised from the dead, he beat death.  Flesh and blood cannot do this, only spirit.Was the flesh of Jesus allowed to see decay, like all other flesh does?  Did his flesh corrupt (rot)?That is obviously a big difference between the flesh of Jesus, and the f…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 01 2012,00:42)Quote 3.  Jesus point blank told his disciples that he WASN'T a spirit.  (Luke 24:39)  Would Jesus be able to make this statement HONESTLY, if he was indeed a spirit being who was only masquerading as a flesh and bone being at the time?  I don't think so.There is another possibility.I'll just repeat what I sai…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 01 2012,00:16)For point 5, isn't there proof that in the Heb scripture, angels have taken on physical form?What scripture says any angel materialized a body?  Who’s to say that angels don't always have a physical form?  Jesus compared angels to wind.  And while we can't see wind with our eyes, or touch it with our fing…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Oct. 31 2012,23:57)Questions: What was Jesus doing during the time after he was resurrected? He certainly wasn't spending time with his disciples. He appeared to them a few times, with them not recognizing him. Jesus was NOT spending time with his disciples. So, where was he? Who was he staying with? Where did he sleep? What…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Oct. 31 2012,23:46)This one scripture in itself shows that it was the 'BODY' of Jesus Christ that was sacrificed!And if that is what was sacrificed, as a ransom sacrifice, does it make sense that it would be given back?Okay, thanks for that! But the point still remains that Jesus sacrificed his LIFE, and got that back.You can…[Read more]