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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 01 2012,21:12)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 01 2012,21:53)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 01 2012,20:45)Mike,I think this sums things up to show that Jesus is making Himself out to be the Son of God and therefore God with the Father:I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself……………I enjoy your sense of humor, Kathi.…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 01 2012,21:08)……….if Jesus is a literal son of God, that would make Him the same type as the Father…the God type.Yet in the other thread, although you and jammin also DESCRIBE “God” as a SPECIES in Phil 2:6, you both DENY and REJECT the word “species”?Why? You're clearly DESCRIBING God as a species, of which there…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 01 2012,21:11)Is Jesus the Lord of YOUR life?Jesus is one of my Lords, yes. My God Jehovah MADE him my Lord. But unlike you, I don't confuse this Lord with the LORD who MADE him Lord and Christ.

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    Wake up?  Did you take a look at those verses in Young's Literal?

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    jammin,WHO IS God Almighty? Who does our one and only God Almighty consist of?

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 04 2012,15:53)Mike,I think that you are thinking about 'gennao,' Strong's #1080 which is translated as 'generate' in 2 Tim 2:23World English BibleBut refuse foolish and ignorant questionings, knowing that they generate strife.Strong's #1096 is not translated as 'generate' so therefore, I am not going to either.The English…[Read more]

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    Quote (david @ Nov. 04 2012,21:46)My first statement:The Puzzle: Why would Jesus’ disciples who were standing in front of him ever have to ask Jesus: “Who are you”?“Not one of the disciples had the courage to inquire of him: “Who are you?” because they knew it was the Lord.” (John 21:12)If they actually “KNEW” it was The Lord, if they actually…[Read more]

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    Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 06 2012,01:56)Quote So how does an angel commit sexual immorality with humans. Does the idea of them taking a physical body explain it? Yes, taking on a physical body makes perfect sense to me.  I think it hits the nail on the head!Can we touch or see air? NO. Is it made up of what we know to be PHYSICAL elements?…[Read more]

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    Quote (david @ Nov. 04 2012,16:15)What does one do when there is one scripture that seems to point in favour of one idea, and many other scriptures that seem to point in the other direction?David, This is more a case of one scripture that SPECIFICALLY and EXPLICITELY teaches a certain thing, as compared to many other scriptures that can easily be…[Read more]

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    Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 04 2012,01:41)There are angels of God, and there are fallen angels.  They are all spirits, regardless.  You have to use discernment.  In other words, “Mike, I'm asking you to discern it the way that I discern it, because I don't really have an answer to the good point you made.”  :)Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 04 2012,01:41)It doe…[Read more]

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    Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 04 2012,18:01) Quote Jesus SAID it was REVEALED by His Father to Peter.Jesus also confirmed exactly what it was that was revealed by the Father to Peter, right?  What WAS that revelation, upon which Jesus has built his church, Marlin?A.  Jesus is God Almighty?B.  Jesus is the SON OF God Almighty?Brother Mike,I feel sorry fo…[Read more]

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    Agreed. I just wanted to get you up to speed. :)

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    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 05 2012,00:46)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 05 2012,02:37)In John 8:58, was Jesus AGREEING with Jews?  Was he admitting that THEY were right in saying he HAD NOT seen Abraham because he WAS NOT yet 50 years old?Does the wording Jesus used in 8:58 make you believe he was AGREEING WITH THEM?  YES or NO?Mike,Your question does not e…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 04 2012,16:16)In a husband/wife relationship the husband is the head of the wife but yet they are one and yet they are equal.Do you disagree with this statement?Kathi, ALL beings are equal in some ways.  This is not a good analogy to support your point.Humans and God are equal in that we both think thoughts.  Humans and J…[Read more]

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    t8,Kathi openly admits she believes in and worships two, completely separate Almighty Gods. Her belief is that God Almighty the Son and God Almighty the Father are TWO separate BEINGS, yet they unite together to rule over heaven and earth as the ONE Highest Authority.In that way, she differs from the traditional Trinitarians. They believe in ONE…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 04 2012,15:16)Well Mike,He was eternally YHWH the Son before creation. His YHWH status did not depend on being Lord over something but instead it depended on being eternal.First, you have no scriptural support whatsoever to back your claim that Jesus was “eternally YHWH the Son”.Secondly, your answer here proves that Jesus…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 03 2012,23:03)Context tells you that Jesus is not a king of kings like Neb and Art.Yes, context tells us that Jesus, as a king, is much HIGHER than Neb and Art were as kings.  Similarly, context tells us that Jehovah, as King of kings, is much HIGHER than Jesus as King of kings.  How does that answer my point, Kathi?  My po…[Read more]

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    Kerwin,I'm tired of wading through your grammatical mumble jumble.Just answer the question I asked:In John 8:58, was Jesus AGREEING with Jews?  Was he admitting that THEY were right in saying he HAD NOT seen Abraham because he WAS NOT yet 50 years old?Does the wording Jesus used in 8:58 make you believe he was AGREEING WITH THEM? YES or NO?

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 03 2012,22:47)Didn't the Son empty Himself and become lower than the angels yet wasn't He involved in creating the angels? The Lord who was involved in the very creation of the angels became lower than the angels and took on the nature of a servant and appearance of man. Therefore, He was not Lord according to His flesh…[Read more]

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    Quote (jammin @ Nov. 04 2012,02:47)mike,if you know greek , what is the greek word for “Bible”?jammin,Can you read the English word “Bible” in any translation?  If not, then I have just used your own silly game against you – and won.Now, answer the question I asked you:Since the English word “Bible” is not actually IN the Bible, am I a false…[Read more]

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