Proclaimer, 5th post on the previous page please.  The one about indefinite articles.  There is a question at the bottom that awaits your direct and honest answer.  Thanks.

Adam:  Hi Mike, I liked the flow of your reply to Sis Kathi on One Yahweh who is Father. Hope she will appreciate it. But the problem is that she takes the other references from the NT which support Jesus’ involvement in creation process along with God.

Thanks. 👍

Adam, we learn of Jesus’ and the other gods’ involvement in the OT too.  For exa…[Read more]

Gene:  Mike…….by God saying the man would become as “we are”, does not mean the,  “WE”, are other Gods, or he would have said , as we “God’s are”.  You have inserted the word God’s there, but scripture does not say “we God’s”  now does it?

Actually it does, Gene.  Watch…

Genesis 3:5…  you shall be like gods, knowing good and evil.

Genesis 3:…[Read more]

Mike: How do you know?  Why couldn’t it have been the Son saying, “Let us make man in our image”?

And which one of them was the “HE” who made man?  (Please include how you know.)

LU:  I believe that the Father gives the vision and the Son does what He has seen in the vision. The Son formed man. All things are made by the only begotten God,…

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Carmel: OK, Mike, THE PROPHET/GOD CHOSE DEFINITELY THE SAME TERMS USED IN GENESIS 1:2 ATTENTION PLEASE:

IN ORDER TO MAKE THINGS CLEAR, THAT  WHAT DID OCCUR IN GENESIS 1:2  IS GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN TO THE LAND OF ISRAEL.

I see.  So then when God made a PROMISE to Noah that He would never again destroy the earth by water, God was lying?

And for…[Read more]

LU:  <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>Jesus is the only begotten God, the Lord of lords…</span>

Is the Father also the Lord of lords?

LU:  <span style=”color: #ff0000;”> was sent from the Yahweh Unity to serve this Unity as He emptied Himself and became man, the promised Messiah.</span>

So the unity of Jesus and the Father sent Jesus as Jesus’ an…[Read more]

Very easy “Yes or No” questions that were ignored by Proclaimer (as usual)…
PROCLAIMER, DO YOU NOW UNDERSTAND THAT BIG BANG, DEEP TIME UNIFORMITARIANISM, AND COMMON DESCENT EVOLUTION ARE NOT EVEN A PART OF SCIENCE, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT OBSERVABLE, TESTABLE, AND REPEATABLE?
DO YOU FURTHER UNDERSTAND THAT SCIENCE IS THE COLLECTION OF DATA – W…[Read more]

LU:  Speaking of being our righteousness, show me where the verb “is” in the Hebrew, to be fair, if you don’t see them, you should back off of claiming that it is there and accusing me of mistranslating. Go ahead show me, I’ll wait.

I didn’t accuse you of mistranslating.  As far as I know, you have never translated the Bible before.  Nor did I…[Read more]

Proclaimer, your rules state that you are not allowed to post on the site until you answer the hot seat questions. But you are posting all over the place without once directly answering any of the questions I’ve asked on the hot seat thread. You refused to answer if there is any reason to assume that any of the sun – Earth day/night cycles were…[Read more]

Carmel, the two scriptures are not “opposite” – just completely unrelated.  Like I said, if your theory is correct, then Jeremiah lived on the “perfect earth”, prophesied about the subsequent creation of the “very good but not perfect” earth, and then lived again on that second earth.

Do you believe that?  Yes or No?

Besides, there were still m…[Read more]

LU:  Then the Father (the God no one has seen of John 1:18) said to the Son (the only begotten God of John 1:18), “Let Us make man in Our image (the only begotten God who is the image of the God no one has seen, Col 1:15)…

How do you know?  Why couldn’t it have been the Son saying, “Let us make man in our image”?

And which one of them was the…[Read more]

Adam, that passage you quoted – plus Psalm 82, Luke 4:6, and the Book of Enoch sum up the entirety of the Bible from the spirit realm aspect….

Deuteronomy 32:8-9… When the Most High gave the nations their inheritance, when He divided the sons of man, He set the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God. But the…[Read more]

Gene:  Mike……if you are going to talk about God or as you believe God’s,  then first establish what the  word actually means is vital to this descussion.   I said God is not a person at all,  but a Word that describes a “RELATIONSHIP” and can apply to “ANYTHING”.  do you agree with that, or NOT?

Hi Gene,

I use the words “god” and “gods” (NOT God’…[Read more]

Adam:  Hi Mike, thanks for this new thread on “Many Gods of the Bible”. I always wonder how the Hebrew religion developed from the Henotheism to Monotheism.

I know that the Bible is full of all kinds of different gods – just from a straightforward reading of it – and it has always baffled me why people who read the Bible think it only talks abou…[Read more]

Carmel: I AGREE above regarding the judgments impending to the land of Israel. 

Genesis 1:2 is a description of the state,

NOT IN WHICH GOD MADE THE EARTH, SINCE IT WAS ALREADY CREATED IN GENESIS 1:1

but to which He was pleased subsequently to reduce it.
Answer please:

DO YOU AGREE 

Of course not, Carmel.  To agree to that, I’d have to agree…[Read more]

Proclaimer: My next question is about your own science and arguments as to why there is a dome, being that air pressure requires it lest the atmosphere is sucked into space.

The Bible is silent on air pressure, and a so-called atmosphere getting sucked into a so-called outer space.  The Bible says that the firmament is the heaven that God c…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  Truth seekers are always open minded and they listen to opposing views until they debunk those views. Whereas, you blindly reject views with no investigation. You make sweeping statements that condemn, but give no proof of why you came to that conclusion.

Adam:  Hi Proclaimer, in fact it’s the other way round…

Thank you for tha…[Read more]

Gene:  Mike……before you start, why not EXPLAIN what the word “SCIENTISM”  means, I have never heard of the word before you mentioned it here.

Hi Gene,

Science is observation, investigation and collection of data.  Science doesn’t draw any conclusions about anything.  It is only the data.

The religion of Scientism is an unquestioning, faith-based…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  The rules state that you state the rules in the first post. Since that wasn’t followed, I guess others just assumed that they could post like other topics.

Fair enough.  Go ahead and leave the posts then.  I will use them to my advantage.

Proclaimer:  I love the Hot Seat. It is designed to get an answer and stop people just ignor…

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Adam:  Hi Mike, I appreciate your honesty here. This is what I am struggling to bring out the erroneous interpretations of the NT writers who had applied the Hebrew texts to suit their biased conceptions to Jesus by taking them out of their original contexts and in bits and parts.

The NT is not what Jesus was talking about when he said not one…[Read more]