Quote (carmel @ Dec. 03 2012,00:12)YOU SIMPLY LEFT OUT: HEIR OF ALL THINGS,Okay, add that part into my post as well. Now we have THREE things that speak of Two:1. One created all things THROUGH the other.2. One spoke to us THROUGH the other.3. One has inherited all things FROM the other.

Quote (carmel @ Dec. 02 2012,00:55)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 02 2012,08:02)There is a big difference between God being IN flesh, and that flesh person BEING God.God can also be in any one of us, but that will never make any of us “God in Flesh”.It's all in the way you word it, Charles.  We agree that God was IN Jesus, doing the works.  We don't a…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Dec. 02 2012,03:31)The word was with God and the word was God – no need to add the little 'a' to make TWO God's when the words speak for themselves!I thought you said you had a handle on that first long post I wrote for you.  Apparently not, so listen very closely:In John 1:1, English translators must do one of two things:1.  ADD t…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Dec. 03 2012,18:48)In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God.This word had to be the Holy Spirit.Why I say this is because John 1 continues on with this:”And the world was made through Him”Keep going……………..According to your belief:John 1:7 says John the Baptist came to testify about the…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Dec. 03 2012,13:32)Terraricca,How many Gods does the Bible teach?But to us there is but one God. 1 Corinthians 8:6Let's post the rest of Paul's teaching to get the real answer:5 For even if there are those called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many gods and many lords), 6 yet for us there is but one God,…[Read more]

2B, Could you also address the points in the following post with something other than, “I feel sorry for you, Mike”?  For example, can you scripturally refute any of the points that me and the NETNotes scholars made?  Which ones?  How do you refute them?  Which scriptures will you use to refute them?  Etc, etc, etc.…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Dec. 01 2012,23:14)Quote (2besee @ Dec. 02 2012,11:17)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 01 2012,22:32)Consider what we know from scripture:1.  Jesus IS callled a god, like you said.2.  Jesus IS called “the Word” in Rev 19:13.3.  All things were said to have been created through “the Word” (John 1:3), and they are also said to have been cr…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Dec. 01 2012,23:12)Can you please tell me how you came to believe that John 1:1 is supposed to be 'a god'.Well, God-given common sense should tell ANYONE that “God” cannot be WITH “God”. That should be anyone's first clue. Even the TRINITARIAN scholars of NETNotes, who want more than anything for Jesus to be God, say:The…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Dec. 01 2012,15:37)I believe we should confront a brother's “crackpot” idea, but do it gently, in God's timing,  with the same love and patience God gave to us when we were wrong. Putting another's “back against the wall” by beating them down, only puts obstacles/stumbling blocks in their way.Wm,Those were excellent words…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Dec. 01 2012,16:45)In almost all cases, it is because of a mixture of cultural tradition, and psychological, sexual, or physical abuse that the parent themself experienced as a child.David,You're just moving the problem down the line to an earlier time in history.  Why did the parent's parent treat the parent so badly?  Because H…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 01 2012,17:49)I can't understand why you and  others would want to destory the very words of what God himself said so much of the time instead of trying to put them together Why is that Mike?Gene,Do you consider taking ALL of the scriptures into account “destroying the very words of God”?   t8 made some claims s…[Read more]

Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 01 2012,20:55)Quote I like to hear scriptural truth, Marlin.The link is there to that thread.  Go to that thread, and address my first post there.Show me the ONE scripture where Jesus said he was God, or even equal to his God.  (But please do it on that thread, okay?)Brother Mike,I just gave you four scriptures and you can n…[Read more]

Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 01 2012,18:44)“The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father” (Ezekiel 18:20)Then Why do we have a sinful nature? Why is the Flesh sinful? (if we do not bear our father sin.)All men are born into sin. It is not due to our own fathers, but to our first father, Adam.Aside from being born with a sinful nature in the first…[Read more]

Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 01 2012,18:38)Brother Mike,I doubt this is what you wanted to hear, but here it is.I like to hear scriptural truth, Marlin.The link is there to that thread. Go to that thread, and address my first post there.Show me the ONE scripture where Jesus said he was God, or even equal to his God. (But please do it on that thread, okay?)

I just had a thought about Lazarus being the writer of John. Consider that at the last supper, only Jesus and the 12 Apostles were present. (Matthew 26:20) And at that supper, “the disciple whom Jesus loved” was reclining against Jesus. (John 13:23)So, unless Lazarus was one of the twelve at the last supper, he did not write the gospel of John.

Quote (2besee @ Dec. 01 2012,16:03)Do you not think that Lazarus KNEW these things? Do you not think that Lazarus would have known HOW to word John 1:1?I don't agree that Lazarus wrote the gospel of John, but I do agree that the writer of John 1:1 was well aquainted with the intricacies of the Greek language.There is a reason he wrote that the…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 01 2012,18:12)God his the almighty, and Christ his the son that the almighty send down so we can be saved by believing that this his the way to the father ,You are correct, my friend.Jesus is not the God we ultimately hope to arrive at………… he is the MEDIATOR we go THROUGH to get to that God.

Hi Marlin,I don't understand your query. Did you have a comment about what I wrote?

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 01 2012,15:19)EDjlook at the story of Boaz and RuthHi Pierre,I prayed about it, and believe that God is leading me to the answer.  It's funny that you also mention Ruth, for that is part of the answer also.Did you ever wonder how the anointed Savior of Israel could come from a MOABITE woman – when the Israelites were…[Read more]

Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 01 2012,16:55)Jesus also said, that if you believe not that I am HE (GOD), then you are still in your sins.John 8:24And where do you get the word (GOD) from Jesus' words in John 8:24?Marlin, I started this thread over a year ago to find out the answer to John 8:24.  Just read the first post, and then maybe you can be the one…[Read more]