Quote (t8 @ Dec. 08 2012,01:03)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 08 2012,17:32)Would that make us a Trinity Doghead?One dog three persons or three dogs, one nature?That is a HILARIOUS avatar, t8!  It brings back memories of Ting-a-ling.  (That was our Chinese Pug when I was young.  My parents figured that since she was a Chinese Pug, she should have a Ch…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 07 2012,23:09)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 07 2012,23:49)Jesus himself told us that his God is also our God, and Jesus didn't worship any “echad unity” thing, I see no reason for me to worship an “echad unity” thing.You and Jesus do not have the same God, Mike.Sure we do. Malachi 2:10Have we not all one Father ? Did not one God…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 08 2012,08:05)Mike has that glory and honor happened to Man in general yet?Absolutely Gene.Man has much glory. For example, in Luke 12:27, Jesus even speaks about the glory Solomon had on earth.And God already HAS put all things (on earth) under man's control. (Genesis 1:28)Gene, your “rebuttal” to my point is: Mike,…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 07 2012,23:20)I have proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the verse is about the name that was given Him, not about the people. Remember the pronoun 'which' is singular and neuter the same as 'name'…unlike the 'them' which is plural and masculine.Kathi,I am up to Leviticus 24 in the NETBible now – reading every footnote…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Dec. 08 2012,02:53)Mike Yes, The one and only God YHVH was coming into the world, as he is the light which John spoke about, the light was coming into the world, but the only way that he could do that was through his own Holy Spirit.But don't you, for some odd reason, insist that the Holy Spirit OF God actually IS God?So your…[Read more]

This thread has gone way off topic.  Do any of the atheists out there have an actual explanation to the points that t8 and Wm made in this thread?If the eternal monkeys will take one gagillion years (or whatever) to happen upon the minute amount of information stored in the 23rd psalm with random keystrokes, then how to you explain the vast…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 07 2012,21:59)And YHWH gave His name to His Son…………John 17:11-12Now I am no longer in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep through Your name those whom You have given Me, that they may be one as We are one.While I was with them in the world, I kept them in Your name. Those whom…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 07 2012,22:32)Now all you have to do is realize that each member of the God unity is a God with one member in authority of the other member and yet equal in nature and attributes.Jesus and I worship the same one God – the One in authority.And since Jesus himself told us that his God is also our God, and Jesus didn't worship…[Read more]

Would that make us a Trinity Doghead?

I don't know of any scripture that says an angel created anything.

Hey 2B,Let's forget this Paul stuff for a minute, and focus only on how your understanding of John 1:1 works with the rest of John 1.You think “the Word” is the “Holy Spirit OF God”, which is somehow also “God Himself”, right?6 There came a man who was sent from God; his name was John. 7 He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 07 2012,16:17)The power of five.

Quote (david @ Dec. 07 2012,18:03)…..just wondering which scriptures, if any, he believes applies to him.I don't remember the scripture, but it has the Hebrew word “ed” in it, and he claims it refers to him.Why not just ask Ed?  He's proud of that scripture, and will happily tell you which one it is.

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 07 2012,09:59)Mike………..I understand Jesus had Glory with God before his berth on the earth , i am not question that , what i am questing is the fact that T8 says Jesus was alive at that Time.It's hard for someone to “have glory alongside God before the world began” if they weren't even alive at the time,…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Dec. 07 2012,17:58)The Word of God and Jesus are often seen as one in Revelations.This is due to the fact that the Word of God was clothed in the Body of Jesus.No, it's because they ARE one and the same. Jesus is called “the Word of God” because he is God's main spokesman.In ancient times, the spokesman for the King of Abyssinia…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Dec. 07 2012,17:58)You asked:'Does John 1:14 say that 'The Word' BECAME flesh or that 'The Word' CAME TO BE IN SOMEONE WHO WAS ALREADY FLESH.What difference does it make?Hmmmm………….You ask what difference it makes?1.  The Holy Spirit BECAME John the Baptist.2.  The Holy Spirit CAME TO BE IN John the Baptist.One of those s…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Dec. 07 2012,17:58)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 07 2012,11:16)Hi 2B,You believe that Jesus is a god, right? Do you believe that Jesus is now Jehovah the Father? Or a DIFFERENT god?You asked me: 'Do I beleive that Jesus is now YHVH the Father'…………….Of course I do not believe that Jesus is YHVH.So then Jesus is a DIFFERENT…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Dec. 07 2012,17:19)The world was only create by ONE God there were not TWO Gods creating.Why would you understand it as such?Okay 2B,Let me say this YET AGAIN, and hope that you will HEAR IT this time:I have NEVER in my life thought that “two Gods” created all things.  I have NEVER claimed that Jesus created one single thing.  I h…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Dec. 07 2012,17:16)andoneLordChristos, the annointed one/messiahbecause of –dia, διά,on account of, through, because ofwhomthe thingsall,Again, in what way do you suppose the dinosaurs were created “because of” Jesus?

Oh, and I forgot to respond to your post about the Greek word “autos” yesterday. What you failed to notice is that the Word was referred to by SINGULAR MASCULINE form of the word “autos” – which requires an English translation of “him”, not “it” in John 1:3. (You can find this information on Biblos.com, right along with the info you posted.)